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choking and snorting

dave jeske

>Esteemed turners, I need some advice. I usually lurk quietly in the hand tool corner. I am not a prolific turner and generally try not to make too much dust in the shop. I have not yet quite mastered the art of turning without the need for a bit of sanding. Usually this is not much of an issue, however, I am working some African Blackwood and I am not getting along very well with the dust (and even the shavings). I believe it is irritating my sinuses. I have tried a cheapie dust mask but no sooner do I don the thing then my safty glasses fog up and I can't see what I am doing. Do I want to see or do I want to breathe? Hmmmmm. The turning forum on WC must have the answer! So please give me some advice. I will try to hook up a bit of a dust collection device with my shop vac but is there a good, relatively inexpensive solution for a dust mask that works with safety glasses? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Dave

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Joel Hunnicutt

>Lee Valley sell a relatively inexpensive nusance mask with a one way valve to let moist warm air out. A couple of guys in my tearning class use them with glasses and really like them.

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John Lucas

>Dave

Dustbegone masks work well. They have a website and I think it is www.dustbegone.com I was going to check it out for you but for some reason my computer won't find any websites. Weird.

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John Lucas

>Here it is.


http://www.dustbeegone.com/

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Richard Allen

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Richard Allen

>Cheap? BTW that "cheap" mask is likely rated by NOSHA which the dust-be-gone is not.

Pinch the cheap dust mask across your nose (where the mast is likely leaking.

Put a piece of tape over the "crown" of your dust mask so the exhale get past your glasses.

The Dustfoe is an effective dust mask that puts the exhale well past your glasses.

Thanks

Richard

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Fog Tanner

>Forget the cheap masks, I have spent quiet a bit of money on all the paper masks and they all work they same - like old people make love..

I have serious sinus problems and am allergic to several of the woods I turn. One of them is cedar, which I turn a lot. Without decent protection I get a severe headache which lasts exactly three days. For turning cedar I use a 3m Powervisor. This has been discontinued and the closest is the Trend Airshield. It is basicly the same as the powervisor. Both are for nusience (sp??) dust and will not filter out the really harful stuff, sub 1 micron. A better unit is the Triton unit. It has much better filtration and meets the sub 1micron specs. It costs the same as the Trend unit. You can check www.airwareamerica.com, which carries both.

For other woods I use the Dustbegone mask. It is washable and will keep a ot of the dust out. I wear glasses and it doesn't fog my glasses like the paper masks do. The key is getting it adjusted correctly. I bought it at a woodworking show and the lady that makes them adjusted mine for me. Its a loose fit, unlike the paper masks or respirators. I have tried using my charcole filetered respirator for turning, but in the Texas summer - its just too hot. That is another advantage to the Dustbegone, you can wet the mask before you put it on and it will keep you cooler.

Basicly, if you have sinus problems, you are going to have to spend a little more money than the guys that don't right now. They will catch up later when they develop the same problems. Mine were developed from over 25 years of sanding balsa wood making model R/C aircraft. So, if you do woodworking its just a matter of time before your body has enough. Better to take care of it before its a bigger problem, it is not any fun...another sobering way to look at it is how much are your lungs worth versus the cost of a good filtration unit.

Fog


http://www.airwareamerica.com/

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Whit Ballantine

>There are a lot of systems out there of varying utility, but, bottom line, Fog has summed it all up. And yes, as he implies, dust problems are cumulative. It only gets worse, not better. Lung cancer and emphysema are truly bummers.

Whit

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Yep, I second Fog's statement

TDaniel

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Bob Moffett

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Bob Moffett

>Dave,

I use a Resp-O-Rator and really like it. I also wear glasses and a full face shield and it does not cause a problem. No batteries to charge or replace and it is lightweight. The inventor did a safety demo for out club and said that it filtered down to the sub 1 micron level , .3 micron I think. It is avaliable in all of the major woodturning catalogs, Woodcraft, Klingspore and Woodworkers Supply. I don't have any financial interest, just a satisfied customer and user.

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bill Crommett in seneca

>But why does Fog feel he has to confess his senior frailties on a public forum ?

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THANKS!!!

dave jeske

>Thank you all for the advice. I now have some shopping to do. My sinuses still bother me today and it's been over 24 hours. I may need to go the higher end way if I want to keep working these types of wood. Thanks again for all the input.

my lungs thank you too.

Dave

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DWFII

>I too use a Resp-O-Rator. Plus I have a 850 cfm PSI dust collector with a very short intake tube right up next to the work.

I do believe the claims that the Resp-O-Rator will filter sub 1 micron particles. The only problem I experience with it is that because you are breathing through your mouth, I get a slightly sore throat--which lasts for a couple of hours at the most.

I know the dust collector is very effective for most of the fines because I have a black desk lamp hanging over my lathe. Before I got the dust collector I had a lot of extremely fine dust all over my shop--dust I couldn't seem to ever get rid of. Now...after I've sanded a piece...sometimes to MM12000...I don't even see dust on the black lamp.

DWFII

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