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TDaniel

>It is with sadness that I must announce I will no longer sell Vicmarc products. As I stated earlier, I sell only good products that are backed up by the manufacturer with honesty and integrity. Not only have I had problems with this company but during the posts earlier this week with problems with a VL100 I have had a number of private emails from other sales agents and all have told me they have the same problems. Facts have been blatantly altered and no one has received any apologies; therefore I can no longer sell this product with confidence. I will liquidate the 3 VL100's that I have remaining and concentrate my efforts on better products.

TD

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Dick Hines

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Dick Hines

>Terry, you ar an upstanding business man. There should be more like you.

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ok - enough

fred

>As a consumer I got the message "VICMARC STINKS" ... i'll head to canada for my lathe.

now, can this thread end? My COC license has kicked in and I'm getting angry.

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John Crissman

>TD,

I think you are taking the respectable high road.

With the trend of new turners still in an upswing, I think it is unbelieveable that any company would not place the utmost importance on quality control and customer service.

I hope you find another product line that will prove to be a greater asset.

John

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two ton tommy

>It's is, indeed, unfortunate that so many are willing to go north for their lathe purchases because one person had a problem which everyone involved agrees has its root in bad communications. However, it will be your loss , because you will not have the same opportunity as I do to turn on a fine lathe sold at a reasonable price made by a company that based on the service that I have recieved deserves much respect.

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Lyn J. Mangiameli

>I had intended to end my comments on this matter, but I must confirm this statement of TD's:

" I have had a number of private emails from other sales agents and all have told me they have the same problems"

I have received similar emails from those who have either sell or have directly received product from Vicmark. More than once those emails referred to shipping damage and a failure to be supported in repair of lathes damaged in shipment. One email referred specifically to an "arrogant attitude." While it might have been more effective if those persons would have provided their experience more openly to the group, I do understand their position of not wanting to jeapordize a business relationship or warranty support. I recognized a lot of frustration. TD, of course, has cut through that for himself.

I really sense that no one has any vendetta against Vicmark. I think the very high quality of their products has been affirmed consistently by myself and virtually everyone who has direct knowledge of their offerings. Indeed, they have an unusually consistent track record of quality in production and design. But we have been reminded (though some probably didn't need it) that there is more to a satisfying purchase than the quality of design and manufacture of a product. Matters of manufacturer and dealer attitudes towards each other, problem solving styles, concern for customers, etc. directly impact the consumer, oftentimes irrespective of written warranties. I think we all know that situation is probably much better in the turning world than most other areas, but obviously it exists here as well. Individuals will draw their own judgments as to whether a particular individual manufacturer is poor or exemplary in these respects, but I believe the discussion which has occured has been quite positive overall in illustrating there importance.

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Lyn J. Mangiameli

>No, I don't believe everyone agrees the problem has its root in "bad communications." I certainly don't. The root for me is in fundamental attitudes towards others, be they dealer or customer.

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Sean Troy

>AMEN !

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#9

Re: Shocking, Indeed!

Mark Mandell - Gone Round In Jersey

>Jeez, what an absolute surprise!

Totaly unexpected, Terry.

But Chin Up, Bunky! The sun WILL come out tomorrow. [somewhere..]

Mark

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