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Help with small extension on the Shop

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Help with small extension on the Shop

Mark Kauder

>I am going to be building a small extension on the outside of my shop - think of it as a 4'x8' closet to hold my compressor and DC (and maybe a small amount of turning blanks/wood). I will be completely drying it in and insulating it (for noise mostly). I will be installing a return vent for DC air back to the shop). I will be building it up on concrete filled ciderblock pillers (like the shop itself).

Question 1: How wide/deep do I need to pour the footers for the Pillers? Consider the fact that frost line is about 0" down here, and the ground it Hard, Hard clay. Also, there will be little weight in the extension.

Question 2: Can I get by with Pillers only on the outside edge, and attach the inside edge to the frame of the shop? Right now my plan is for the floor to be double thickness 3/4" plywood.

Exterior of the extension will be covered with vinyl siding to closely match the shop itself. The roof of the shop is aluminum, but I may use fiberglass roofing for the extension.

Any tips will be appreciated.

Thanks

Mark

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Earl

>For that small of extension, if there is someway you could acually cantilever it out from the current shop, you could get away with no footings. Four feet out from the shop wouldn't be too difficult. Think of the way they truss a brigde. If you have space under the additon you can simply run V bracing back to the house. Otherwise you can run the angle bracing from around 8' (the ceiling) down to the outer edge of the projection, and, of course, proplerly supporting the floor with joices. Otherwise,you would need to know what your local building codes call for. If you don't go deep enough you will probably regret if forever after because the extension will keep seperating and shifting away from the shop causing cracks, leaks, etc. I take it that you don't plan to get a permit from your local buiding department? If you do, it will be to their specs!

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Jerry Whitaker

>Hey, Mark

Build it twice as big so you can store more wood!

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John Lucas

>Mark

1st let me say that I don't know Jack about building codes. I would build like adding a small deck. Attach it to the building and pour small concrete footers to attach some 4x4's on the outer portion. If you end up storing more wood than you think you will add a fair amount of weight. The footers will help with the weight and also create a moisture bearier for the wood support.

A simple 2x4 frame around this with supports and then covered with plywood and you'll have an area that can be used for whatever the future brings. Deck hardware is also cheap and easy to install.

Here in the hills of Tennessee we'd just back up one of the old cars we don't use, rip out the seats and put the compressor in there. Where's Bubba Bob when we need him.

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Bill Hale / The Wood Spinner

>Mark

4 x 8 will give you enough room for the equipment. If you can do it 8 x 8 and allow for some storage of wood etc. You will need a door to help in the sound profing and use R19 for the insullation to absorbe sound. I believe your major sound problem will be in the floor.

I would set pillars on all four corners and bolt it to the existing building.

With an 8 x 8 you can build with all 2 x 4 but I would use 2 x 6 on the floor joists.

Good turning and be safe

Bill

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Edward

>I knew a wood dealer in Saskatchewan, Canada, that used old school buses, seats removed, to store wood that he had for sale. Cheaper than building a warehouse.

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Edward

>Maybe you could park an old school bus beside your shop, Mark, And use the gutted bus for your DC and compressor.

I know other woodworkers that buy old semi and truck boxes to store their wood (and stuff).

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Mark Kauder

>LOL Are you guys all from Alabama??

Mark

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Mark Kauder

>Bill,

Thanks for the input. If I go 8' wide, I start to run into property line problems.

Thanks

Mark

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Edward

>Mark; We're just trying to help!

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Mark Kauder

>Just wondering, if we might be neighbors with suggestions like this. ;)

Mark

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Yucholian

>http://mysite.verizon.net/res1aa5i/Housedrawing.htm

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Walt Ahlgrim

>Do you have zoning in your town?

Are permits required in your town?

How far north are you?

If the goal is nose reduction build as a separate structure.

Are there any underground utilities in your planed site?

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