Terry's Gobblet

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RevDoug

>Beautiful wood Terry. What is it?

Good job with the turning as well. Is the left one a bit flat on the sides of the bowl? Could be the pic. I really like the base of the right one. In fact, the right one looks more like the second one of the day. Anyway, I like what I see in general.

Thanks for sharing them with us. Goblets made for a very good discussion last night. I enjoyed it as much or more than I ever had. Thanks again.

Turn 'em round,

RevDoug


Wood Spun Round

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Brad Vietje

>Nice -- Boxelder ?

Couldn't drop in on the goblet chat Wednesday night, but made another Ash goblet Wednesday afternoon for fun. This one I made with a really thin stem, maybe 3/32", and discovered a goblet factoid:

The thinner the stem, the more easily you can see inconsistancies in the stem thickness. If the stem is 3/8" or 1/2", a little change in thickness is usually not noticed, but as that stem gets thinner, any slight changes in thickness or any goofs really show !

Safe Spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT

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John Lucas

>Brad

It's funny you mentioned that because I was turn the junction between the base and stem and had switched from skew to gouge. The bump where I was trying to merge the two cuts was exremely small but you could see it with your eyes very easily and was even easier to feel.

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Ron in Drums PA

>I like the one on the right better, but it looks like a brandy sifter to me. How does the stem feel in your hand? It looks like it might be a little thick.

Thx Doug; boxelder

TDaniel

>The wood is boxelder. No finish yet, just sanded with Watco Danish Oil. It will get a few more coats of oil. I am playing right now; don't know what finish I will end up using. I am testing some with no finish to see how it does.

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TDaniel

>Ron, I like the one onthe right best also. The stems are a little fat but I don't think too fat but I would like to know what others think. They are slightly over 1/2" diameter. I started seeing some wobble so to go any thinner would have required a steady I think. These were turned on a bowl lathe, not between centers.

TD

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Whit Ballantine

>Or a "cat's cradle" ala Escoulien (undoubtedly spelled incorrectly).

Whit

OK, TD, you asked

Doug Trembath

>Terry, I personally think the stems would benefit from a little weight loss, but I like them to be slim and elegant. This is something like the post Mike Scwhing had about his finial not long ago. The same comment applies here. Proportion is sometimes the hardest thing to achieve. I turn long stemmed goblets ala Stuart Batty on a shortbed Vic, and, like you, experience some rocking and rolling, but I turn 18 to 20 inch goblets with the stems around 1/8 inch, and the goblet portion in the 2-3" diameter range. I usually pull someone from the crowd to act as a steady rest and have them hold the spinning stem between their fingertips as I quickly run down the stem. You should see their eyes when I take it back and begin sanding the stem, and showing them how far the goblet will bend while spinning. Always gets a good crowd reaction.

Doug Trembath

Studio in the Woods

A different opinion....

Russ Fairfield

>Your stems are not too large, they are too straight.

The stem is the most important part of the goblet, but the part that we give the least attention. The stem is more than something that separates the cup from the base and gives us something to hold when we use the goblet. The stem is the transition between the different forms of the cup and the base. The greater the difference in the shape of these two elements, the more important the stem becomes in making the transition a smooth one.

Our eye should be seeing the goblet "as a whole", rather than its separate parts. A straight stem will always look like a dowel, something that is out of place and a disconnect between the cup and base. Our focus is drawn to that which is out of place, and the the straight stem will always look to be too large.

A stem with a smooth continuous flowing curve will always look better than one that is straight, regardless of its thickness. Try adding some curvature to the stems, and you will find that they can be thicker in their waist than they are now, and they will still look better.

You really need to be turning goblets between centers.

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TDaniel

>Thx Russ and Doug. I see what you mean about the stem looking like a dowel. I tried some ornamental cuts first but they looked gaudy so I just cut it smooth but I can see that a little taper would look better. Russ, if I try to go with a longer stem I will have to move to the Vicmarc but it sure is more fun turning with no bed in the way.

TD