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Using a digital camera as a turning tool...

Russ Fairfield

>In last nights Chat Room, we discussed using the digital camera to better see the form and line of a piece while it is being turned. I promised that I would post a typical photo that I would use.

This photo has been edited to add the arrows and numbers. In real life, I would make an 8X10 glossy print and mark it up with a marking pen. If I was good with an editing software, I could use the photo to see what would happen if I were to change the line and form. If we were working from a plan, sketch, or another photo like many do with segmented assemblies, we could use this photo of the real thing to see how we were doing.

The advantage for making this photo is that it reduces the piece to a 2-dimension flat, making the lines and problems with the shape more pronounced. Changing the background will accent the outline of the form. A flash can give a sharper image that other lighting for this purpose.

The vase in the photo is 15" diameter and it is attached to a 6" faceplate for turning.

Looking at the photo, there are several problem areas that are visible.

Point A--

There is a flat place in the curve at this point. It needs to be rounded. This is a difficult place to "feel" the curve while it is one the lathe because of the glue joints and different wood textures in the area.

Points B--

There are two (2) breaks in the curve at Points-B with a flat line between them.

Points C--

It looks as though there should be a dark separation line between the checker-line and the background field behind the Thunderbird. I could part the the feature band in two places and add the necessary layers. This is something that is easy to do with a segmented turning. I waited until the next morning, and chose not to do this, leaving it like it was.

Base Diameter--

The diameter of the base is too large. It is being determined by the faceplate, rather than what it should be for the form. This is a common problem for woodturners, and without this photograph would not have been discovered until the piece is finished and sitting on the table.

My solution was to smooth the curve at "B" and carry it down to a smaller base diameter. The thicker waste-block allowed me to do this without running into the screws. Another solution would have been to change to a 5" faceplate.


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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Good Post, Russ

Mark

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JamieDonaldson

>Be aware that optical distortions can cause havoc with this process-barrel and pin cushion distortions are very often undercorrected in zoom lenses used in most digital cameras. To get the most accurate rendering possible under these circumstances, use a zoom setting approximately 2/3rds toward telephoto from lowest wide angle focal length-on most current lenses that is the point of lowest distortion. It also allows a workable distance between subject and lens.

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John Lucas

>When I was first forced to use digital cameras I wanted to use use them as a turning tool but I was thinking about possible a wedge to split the wood. Fortunately they have improved a lot and we are just beginning to discover what all can be done with them. Russ's suggestion is just one. Posting a photo of piece still on the faceplate and asking this group for suggestions is another. Of course being able to see work from all over the world is really great and something I really enjoy.

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Chuck Ludwigsen

>Thanks for an excellent tip, Russ. It would be cool to post the raw pic here and have others comment on it. Then have someone with the pic editing wizardry augment the photo with the critique suggestions.

Someone has done that for one of my pieces here before and it was immensely helpful. I just feel terrible that I can't recall who it was or find the post about it.

Chuck.

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Question for Russ

Ray in Toronto

>how do you build the "eagle" - are they made as a piece and assembled as a complete ring or are these laid down and built up as stacked rings?

great theme and a discovery of how a piece evolves.

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Re: Using a digital camera as a turning tool... *LINK*

Peter Teubel

>That would be me...(see link).


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Chuck Ludwigsen

>Thanks Peter. That wasn't the turning I did but you ARE the GUI Guru did the excellent markup. Sorry for spacing on the name. ;-)

Thanks for doing this. I have a roughed out shallow cedar bowl that I'm going to let dry a couple more months, then post a pic for shaping suggestions. It would be cool to see your ideas.

Chuck

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Stuart Johnson

>Peter, What software do you use inorder to get a nice flowing line?

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Peter Teubel

>I use PaintShop Pro. I find it easier to use than Adobe PhotoShop (I have that proggy also), it can use almost any 3rd party PhotoShop Plug-In, and is far less expensive.

To make the curved lines, I use the Bezier Curve function, add an extra "pull point", and strech it around until I get the curve I want. Then I make a mirror-copy and line it up manually with the other.

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