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Source for burning iron

Bill Grumbine, Kutztown PA

>Good afternoon all

For quite some time I have been using a woodburner to sign (or should that be singe?) my work. It is permanent, it looks good - I think it does anyway, and it works on just about anything I turn. However, I am not a patient person, and my patience has worn very thin with my current burner, which is a $12.00 special from Walmart.

What I am looking for is something with a little more power (ugh! ugh!), so that I can spend less time signing, making for a smoother signature. This one has a tendency to stumble over cross grained bottoms, giving me fits at times. I am not into carving pictures or burning designs on my pieces, I just want to sign my name, so I don't really need or want something that costs a ton of money and has all sorts of tips available.

So, does anyone here have a source, or an idea of what might work for me?

Thanks.

Bill

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Jim Pugh in Ohio

>Bill, I use the Colewood Cub priced around $59. You can find it and all kinds of other stuff at

http://www.woodburning.com/

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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>I'd recommend Colwood too Bill - I just bought the Detailer, one above the Cub, and I've been practicing with it - I really like it; it's a solid, good little machine, and should suit me well. Cost was about a hundred bucks: tax, tag and title, to my door, with a couple of tips.

David

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Pascal Oudet

>Bill,

an alternative to woodburning controlers could be an old computer power supply. they have low voltage (5V, 3.3V)/high currents (up to 10A or more) outputs, and this works really well. they are not adjustable unless you have a very good knowledge on how these things work (very high voltage in them, don't open them if you are not familiar with this stuff), but this can be a really cheap solution if you have an old computer. just try, and be ready to shutdown if the tip becomes too hot.

I made my wire burner with this solution, and just added a small adjusting circuit on the output (less than 3$) because the power was too high. works perfectly.

Pascal

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Peter Teubel

>Could you post more details on your setup? I have several old computer power supplies and would love to find a use for them. Currently, I'm using a Detail Master Dagger III, and it works fine for signing pieces. However, I'm doing more pyrography work on my woodturnings and I find the recovery performance declines significantly after using it for 5 minutes or more (need more power...ARRR, ARRR!).

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Bill,

After an Andi Wolfe demo I bought a "BurnMaster Hawk" from Woodcarver's Supple.

I like it very much.

Mark


http://www.woodcarverssupply.com/store/

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Art Liestman

>For what it's worth, I use the Detailmaster Excaliber. It has the highest wattage of any of the commercial units available in North America. Other Detailmaster units have lower wattage. (I hadn't heard of the Burnmaster until now, but their top unit (the Eagle) claims the same wattage as the Excaliber and they recommend Detailmaster handpieces.) The high wattage is a distinct advantage, allowing you to burn hotter. The Detailmaster is an excellent tool that lets you set and maintain a particular temperature. It's probably my most important single tool (after the Stubby, of course).

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Bill Grumbine, Kutztown PA

>Thanks everyone, for the links and ideas. Pascal, your idea sounds like a good one, but I do not have the tools or the time to learn what you describe. Besides, the old power source is still being used by the old computer. ;-)

Now I need to read these links and decide on spending some money.

Bill

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electronics answer (long)

Pascal Oudet

>well, people not interesting in electronic stuff might skip this post (which would be better on rec.sci.electronics).

warning: don't use your working PC to do this, find an old power supply (there is always the risk of destroying it)

1- first, I recommend to use an old power supply, who has a ON switch on the primary. if it doesn't, there's a signal called "remote on" or "ps_on" on the connector. in ATX PSU (2*10 connector), it's pin 14 (no std color. pins 13,15-17 are GND, black). when PSU is plugged, but not ON, 2 signals have a voltage >0.

one is 5v standby, pin 9. the other is ps_on. short this pin to ground to power on. if any, the PSU fan must be spinning

(you can look at the pinout on ATX spec at

http://www.formfactors.org/developer%5Cspecs%5Catx2_1.pdf).

The same principle is valid for non standard PSUs, just find the 2 wires having non 0 voltages. (ps_on is usually lower than 5V sb)

5V outputs have red wires, 3.3V are orange. 12V is yellow.

you can connect your tip to 5V or 3.3V. if it doesn't get too hot, that's it. otherwise, you need to find a mechanism to adjust the power.

2- It can be difficult to locate inside the PSU the appropriate components to modify to adjust the voltage (playing on the regulation feedback loop). It can be dangerous too, as there is a high voltage too (up to 400V dc). So don't do this. moreover, the adjustable voltage will probably limited to 2.5V, which could be too high in some cases.

So I connected to the 5v output a PWM controler, based on a TLC555 (fixed frequency, variable duty cycle). the web is full of this kind of circuit. I attach one schematic as an example. I recommend to make it work at a pretty low frequency (~100Hz), to minimize commutation losses. you can play with this by adjusting the 22uF cap.

this circuit is powered by the 12V supply (yellow), and the output is connected to the gate of a N-mos with a Rds-on as low as possible.

Source is tied to ground, and drain to one pin of the burning tip. the other tip pin is tied to +5V (or +3V, choose the one which has the higher current rating). Mount the MOS (preferably TO220 package or bigger) on a good heatsink, as it will get hot.

PSU usually don't like to have this kind of switching load, the regulation gets crazy. so you need to add a permanent load on the 5V line, say 100 ohms.

You can even power a fan to blow away the fumes with the 12V line.

This circuit has probably not all the bells and whistles of a commercial one, but you can start woodburning for less than 5$.

one more trick: if you want to make your own tips, buy some Nichrome wire. this is a resistive wire used in heating devices.

Enjoy,

Pascal


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>Pat Lamusga of PJL Enterprises produces the Optima. He reports that his controllers are more powerful, better-made than others on the market. He sounded believable. http://www.carvertools.com

Also, http://www.razertip.com/ who used to make the Optima and now are in Canada. They now have a pen where you can make your own tips!!!

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