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questions on a supplier and a lathe

jim reasoner

>I just ordered a Packard woodworking catalog. They seem to have a good selection of items I like. Has anyone had any experience, good or bad, with Packard?

Also, I think my 20 year old craftsman lathe is about to go downhill. There is no way I can justify a $2000 replacement. I have been reading about a delta 46-715. Its more in my price range. My turning is pretty general purpose. I have started doing lots of pens and such and I also do some bowls, plates and the like. I want to go up to 12" diam and smaller. Can anyone give me any advice, opinions, recommendations, etc. on the delta 46-715 or any other brand. Remember I am an intermediate turner with a limited budget. Thanks for any info on either question

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Chuck Ludwigsen

>Don't pass up looking at Jet lathes.

I just got the Jet 1236 with 12" swing and 36" between centers. Plus the headstock turns for larger diameter items. I love it. It is solid. You can get one for a little over $500 I believe.

Also, there 1442 the next step up but still under $1000 I think.

Give them a look.

Chuck in Memphis, TN.

(VERY happy new Jet owner).

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Bert

>Jim,

FWIW, I worked on a Craftsman for several years. When it finally went belly up I was faced with the same situation. I ended up choosing a Jet that's about the same size as the Craftsman.(I would have to look to remember the model number) It has the following features that I love:

1. The head stock pivots to allow outboard turning of larger bowls. Even when the bowl I'm working on is small enough to fit inboard it saves strain on the back when you don't have to lean over the bed.

2. Easy speed control. Moving a lever back and forth is much easier than pushing the belt back and forth across the pullys and you don't even need to stop the lathe.

3. Tail sock improvements. Adjustments are quick and easy and hold better than the spinning wheel on the Sears model.

4. Dual rails on the bed provide a more stable platform for the tool rest.

5. It isn't mounted on a bench! The shavings fall right to the floor. This may be a drawback for a turner who likes to have his tools on the bench, but I found that the piles of shavings just hid my tools from me.

I'm sure other brands will contain similar features and may be better than the Jet, I have not worked on many other lathes. A bigger more powerfull unit might be nice, but this one seems to handle more than the Craftsman did. Overall I have been quite pleased with my $450 investment.

Good luck

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Jet 1442

BubbaBob

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Marc Phillips

>I have had nothing but good experiences with Packards...

I think the best deal right now is the Jet 1236 on sale at Amazon for $399, free shipping...

I have one and I think it would work well for what you are looking to do... click the link below...

Marc


Jet Lathe at Amazon

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Ric Erkes

>Jim, I and several members of our club have ordered things from Brad Packard. I am amazed at how fast he sends out his orders. I have also never heard anyone say anything bad about his service. Only drawback for us in NC is the state tax.

He is also a turner and knows what you are asking about if you have a question.

Ric

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Bob Persing

>Jim,

I would suggest checking comments from other owners of this lathe, perhaps a Google search will take you to some messages from other boards. I will say that I have recently come across some folks that were not at all pleased with this Delta lathe. So far I have not run across unhappy campers that own the JET 12" lathe. DO read up on this.

BobP

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Brad is Great Guy

Joel Hunnicutt

>Packard woodworks is one of my favorite suppliers. Brad is very knowledgeable, his shopping is fast and the service is second to none. I prefer to do business with poeple I like and he is one of the best.

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Keith Tompkins

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Keith Tompkins

>I agree with Joel.....I buy from Brad as my first option. Also, can't recommend the Delta.

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Lee Dale

>I could not agree more. Brad is my first choice for supplies. He ships quickly, Has the knowledge to answer question. Alan, Brad's number one employee is also a turner and will answer questions. They treat you like one of their family. I never hesitate to recomend Pakard to any turner

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Charlie Romano

>I have purchased a lathe through Packard Woodworks and was very pleased with the process. The lathe was heavy (650 lbs) and I'm almost 1000 miles away yet the delivery was smooth and well coordinated by Brad. I would recommend them without any reservation.

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Packard Woodworks & Delta Lathe

Dominic Greco in Richboro PA

>Jim,

I've dealt with Brad at Packard Woodworks for some time now and have thoroughly enjoyed the experience. He is knowledgeable and very nice to deal with. I ordered so much from him that I believe he knows me by name!

As for the Delta Midi (which I believe is the lathe you're talking about), I have one. While I didn't get the Delta Midi through Brad, I can tell you about it. About 2 years ago when I bought it, I wrote a review of it for Badger Pond. If I can dig it up, I'll post it here. But for now, here is a shortened version.

For the size and the money, it can't be beat. Except by it's twin, the Jet Midi. Those two lathes are very alike.

While I would love to add a variable speed drive to it one day (ala Mark Kauder and his Jet Mini), I have no problems with the belt/speed change. The 1/2 HP motor is more than powerful enough to handle just about anything you throw at it. If you can swing it, get the extension bed. This way you can turn 32" long spindles.

On the negative side, I think one of the first things I did was get a new tool rest. the one that comes with it is too short for small bowls (at least I feel it is). I also didn't care for the live center. I swapped that out right away. But you could use it until it comes time to buy a replacement. Brad sells an economical one for about $40.00. It has a 60 deg cone and heavy duty body. I really like using it.

Good luck with your decision. Tell Brad we all said, "Hi!"

See ya around,

My ugly mug

Dominic

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Old Delta Midi Lathe Review

Dominic Greco in Richboro PA

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Review of Delta 46-250 Midi-Lathe





Delta 46-250 Midi-Lathe Specifications:


Motor - 1/2 HP, 115V, 60Hz. 1725 rpm


Swing Over Bed - 10"


Swing Over Base - 7 1/2"


Distance Between Centers - 14 1/2", (With Extension) - 37"


Drive Spindle - 1" -8 RH Thread


Head & Tailstock Taper - #2 MT


Tool Rest - 6"


Overall Dimensions


Length - 33 1/4"


Width - 11"


Height - 17 1/2"


Weight - 85 lbs


Tailstock Thru Hole - 3/8" Self-Ejecting


Tailstock Spindle Travel - 1 1/2"


Drive Spindle Thru Hole - 3/8"


Motor Speeds - 500, 800, 1250, 1800, 2650, and 3700




Justification:


Like many turners out there, I had been toying with the idea of having a �portable lathe�. Having one to set up in a booth at a craft show is one possible use, as is having a �back up� in ase your primary lathe is down. But my main reason behind buying this was I wanted to have a lathe I could transport over to my Dad�s house. Now he can try his hand at turning, without having to take the long ride up to my shop.

The Search:


I had little or no exposure to the newest generation of Midi Lathes currently on the market. So I was totally taken aback by the quality, features, and power these smaller lathes offered. I educated myself on the various base level features, and looked into what the different manufacturers offered. In the end, it came down to either the Jet, or the Delta Midi.

These are not �Mini� lathes, with universal motors, dinky controls, and lightweight assemblies. Both the Jet and Delta offered a nice speed range (from 500 to 3,700 rpm), heavy cast iron ways, heavy-duty tail stock (both with the smoothest operating hand wheels I've ever seen), and a 1/2 horsepower induction motor.

Both midis have an add-on bed extension that will enable you to increase your spindle turning capacity to 37�. And since the motor is a � HP induction type, you have plenty of power to turn a moderately sized spindle, or a 9�� or 10� diameter bowl blank. Both feature a head stock that turns at one of six speeds from 500 to 3,700 rpm for a variety of turning applications. And both lathes have a head stock and tail stock that feature #2 Morse tapers, and a swing of 10 inches over the bed. This allows turning larger diameter projects like bowls, and hollow forms.

Final Selection:


At first I chose the Jet Midi. This was partially due to the current sale being run at Woodcraft. You can get a Jet Midi, with the bed extension (a $49.99 value) for $324.00. However, there were several features that made the Delta stand out over the Jet. The Delta uses an American motor, and I liked the location of the On/Off switch. I also liked the fact that the Delta is $24.99 less than the Jet. What clinched the deal is that a local Woodworker's Warehouse (in tax free Wilmington De) didn't have the bed extensions in stock. So he offered to sell me the Delta at $299.00, and throw in the bed extension.

The Delta Midi comes with a 2 year limited warranty on machines, parts, and accessories. The basic package I picked up at Woodworker's Warehouse included, a basic tool set, spur center, 3-inch faceplate, tool rest, knockout

bar, wrenches, and instruction manual. The bed extension was just icing on the cake.

First Impressions:


Out of the box, I was impressed with the fit, and finish of this lathe. The bed ways were lightly coated in Cosmoline (or some other rust preventative), which was easily removed with mineral spirits. The manual is somewhat vague

when it comes to detailed explanation of changing speeds. But once I tried it a couple of times, it was not that hard to reason out.

Let me just say, when they say �portable�, they are really

stretching this term. At 85 lbs, this is not a tool you lug around easily. And in the effort to provide a stable work platform, it is also recommended that you make a plywood base that can be clamped to a tabletop. Since I really do not look forward to the next time I need to move this little monster, I will eventually construct a rolling cabinet (with some type of tool storage underneath) for it. One of the nice features of this lathe is that the head stock has 1�-8 threads. This is the same as my Jet JWL-1236 and means I can use my Talon Scroll Chuck without any modifications.

After cleaning off the head stock, tail stock, tool rest and ways, I decided to put this lathe through its paces. I selected an 8� dia roughed out cherry bowl that had been sitting in my shop for several months, and chucked it into the lathe. This bowl was out of round by at least �� and would present a good test of the lathe's sturdiness. After setting the appropriate speed via the belts, I turned the lathe on. I was immediately struck by how quiet, and smoothly it ran! Turning was accomplished with the same ease, if not more, than with my full size Jet Lathe. Another added benefit was that with the short bed, I was able to work from in front of the lathe without the interference presented by a long bed. The only complaint I have is the tool rest. It is small and awkward to use. I will be replacing this as soon as I can.

Conclusion:


After several days of use, I am quite happy to report that this midi lathe got high scores all around. In fact, if I had seen this lathe, and been aware of it's features back when I was shopping for my full size Jet, I might have made a different choice.




See ya around,

My ugly mug

Dominic


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Bruce Kantelis

>I have the delta in question and have found it to be excellent at it's price point.

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Chuck Hargenrader

>Without going into detail I think I would buy a lathe elswhere. I have not had the best of experiences with Packard. Try to find a place fairly close to you that services your purchase & you may be glad you did down the road.

Chuck in Maine

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TDaniel

>I agree Chuck, small items can be ordered from a Catalog but it is best to buy larger things like a lathe from someone that is close enough to service it, especially if buying a lathe with electronic variable speed. With the internet sources of many things price tends to become the only factor with many folks but service has value too. A showroom costs money and being able to try something before buying has value; consider these before going for the cheapest price.

TD

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