New Molding Plane

SWEET!

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>That's a nice looking plane Paul. If I may ask, why did you choose 55 deg?

You do know we must see shavings!

Re: SWEET!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native, Presently Away

>I agree 100% with Scott, it's a very nice looking plane. Are you going to put any type of finish on it?

How many other planes have you made?

Good idea on making the ones that you can't find.

Better show some shavings before Neal gets a'hold of ya! ;~)

T.O.

Re: SWEET!

Paul in NJ

>Most of the wooden planes I see, and these are usually American, have a blade bedding of 45 degrees. These were primarily used by house joiners to plane softer woods like pine and poplar for trim, sash, etc. I look for planes with blades bedded at 55 degrees. These are usually British and cabinetmaker planes. Like smooth planes, molding planes with steeper pitches work hardwoods with less tear-out. Some planes were pitched as much as 60 degrees.

Paul Dzioba

Re: SWEET!

Paul in NJ

>I don't plan on adding any finish, just a little wax to the sole. It will build its own character with some use and age. I made a plow plane last summer, a Shepherd kit thumb plane, and a butt mortise plane. I would like to make some more molding planes and have enough wood for one more. Quartered beech is tough to find and I might have to resort to laminating some stock like Todd Herli. I have my bandsaw mill guy looking for a beech log and hope to get some that way.

Paul Dzioba

Re: Very nice

Dave Mount, NE Minnesota

>Nice job -- that's a pretty plane even without the embellishments added, and the products look better yet.

Do you have/did you use floats for the wedge mortise? How'd you do hitting the bed angle when you drilled?

Great work,

Dave

More questions

Wiley Horne--So. Cal.

>Paul,

I am wondering about the sole profile. Were you able to scribe it from the trashed plane? And find a round which matched the curve of the ovolo? A few details would be appreciated.

Very impressive!

Wiley

Funny...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>I know most molders for cabinet makers to be around 50 deg. I haven't seen any at 60 deg. myself. I was just curious why you chose 55 deg.

Anyway nice molder!

Plow

Jack Guzman from Maine

>Nice plane Paul. Do you have any pictures or constuction details from the plow? I've almost given up trying to find a used one to buy and am thinking of building my own.The good ones on ebay always seem to go for big bucks.---Jack

Very Nice. Thanks for sharing.

vlparisian - Houston

>And where are the shavings?

Victor - In Houston

Hey Paul, very nice!

John in New Mexico

>Making planes I can't find is on my ever growing list too...

Just got to get this pesky house done, then I can start on a shop!

John

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Andrew Lunn

>Good looking plane, Paul! Nice clean lines. I like it a lot. Do you have any progress pics from making it? I was going to ask you where you managed to find thick quartersawn beech, but it looks like you are looking for some too!

When you made your plow plane, did you file a groove in the backs of the irons to register against the skate? If so, how did that go? Any pics from that project?

Again, fine work!

Andrew

Re: Plow *LINK*

Paul in NJ

>Jack,

I posted pictures of the plow on WC last year, click on the link below to get the archive. I started with a set of Sandusky irons I found and built my plane to match them. The irons vary according to maker. John Whelan's book "Making Traditional Wood Planes" was a big help and has plans for many different kinds of planes. My plow didn't follow any one particular plan but I borrowed features from each of his three plows. I think fabricating the hardware was the most time consuming. Good luck on yours, I know you can do it! If I can help, let me know.

Paul Dzioba


http://woodcentral.com.ldh0138.uslec.net/cgi-bin/archives_handtools.pl?noframes;read=90320

Re: More questions

Paul in NJ

>Dave and Wiley,

I made a couple of floats and they were a big help. The blade I used came from an old rabbet plane that was beyond repair. I borrowed Todd Herli's plane video from my WW club library and picked up a few tips from him. I didn't use his plans but I had a sash plane I liked and used it as a reference for my plane. A drafting elipse template was used to draw the pattern which I scribed on both ends of the plane. I connected the profiles along the side of the plane with a marking gauge. A rabbet plane cutting to those lines defined the 'stop' and 'fence' which only left the elipse. I drew parallel pencil lines the length of the plane where I wanted to profile the elipse. The lines helped me keep track of how much material I was removing and I would add more as I progressed. The round plane had a slightly tighter radius than the elipse I wanted so I changed the angle as I removed shavings eventually blending all together. Once I had it all together and cut some samples, it was easy to see any high spots that needed to be removed by the burnishing. Incidentally, I made my sawcuts for the throat before I profiled the bottom. It was easier to cut square and plumb that way.

I found John Whelan's books and Todd Herli's video extremely helpful and also making a practice model from poplar. It was also nice to have a plane for reference.

Paul Dzioba

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Paul in NJ

>Sorry Andrew, no progress pictures. My plow plane irons came with the groove in them and I matched my skate to them. If you are planning on using more than one iron, get them from the same manufacturer as they vary.

Paul Dzioba

A couple more questions

Wendell @ Murphy, Tx

>Very nice plane. I really like ovolo moldings. What wedge angle did you go with? The old molders I have seem to have a fair amount of variation in the wedge. Herli and Whelan also use different wedge angles in their planes. Did you spring the plane? The couple old ovolo molding plane I have are sprung.

Wendell

11 Degrees and Yes!

Paul in NJ

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What's a sprung molding plane?

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I've never heard of this term. Could someone explain it to me?

Re: What's a sprung molding plane?

Ted Shuck, Centennial, CO

>It is a plane which is not meant to be used perpendicular to the face of the board. There is a line on the end of the plane indicating the angle at which the plane should be used. This line should be perpedicular to the face of the board.

Regards,

Ted

Re: What's a sprung molding plane? *LINK*

Paul in NJ

>Scott,

Here is a link that will explain it much better than I can.

Paul Dzioba


http://www.sover.net/~nichael/nlc-wood/chapters/hkean.html

So that's what that's called...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I've seen it before, just didn't know it's name. Thanks Ted

Cool link. Thanks Paul!

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

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Amazing work once again!

Frank D. in Montreal

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Thumb Screw

Doug Reynolds in Seattle

>Paul: In your plow plane post you said you made the hardware. Did you make the brass thumb screw, or were you able to find a source? I am also looking for cheese head screws. Any ideas?

Thumb Screw... *LINK*

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Try here. Just do a search for thumb screws. They carry steel and brass ones. They have cheese head screws also, but not in brass.

You could use a fillister head instead, they do carry those in brass.


Mc Master-Carr