picture sizing, there must be a better way

11/27/06, 3:46 PM #1

Bill Tindall, E.TN.
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picture sizing, there must be a better way

bill tindall, E. TN

>It took an hour to size the picture for my post below. Person took picture for me at ultra high super maximum resoution and what ever. To size I import into MS Paint and then with shrink and skew I shrink the image and with those side button things I crop. For things I take about a 25% shrink and a bit of croppping usually gets me about right, but in this case I had to shrink to only 8% of original image as well as crop and the result was a postage stamp. It is an arbitrary process because the only way I know to know how big the image is is to save it, and then find it, and look at its properties. Then I discovered the image I posted on the message board would not fit on this side. Grumble! Took 5 more tries to get under 40 KB. 40.3 would not post.

Why does the message board allow bigger images than this side.

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11/27/06, 3:59 PM #2

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Dan Donaldson

>Bill, why don't you e-mail me the picture (original)and let me take a look at it. MS paint is probably not the best alternative for shrinking pictures.

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I have been woodworking for about 25 years now, and would consider myself an enthusiastic amateur. My claim to fame (or infamy) has always been fixing stuff. I spent time in the Air Force in the 60's then went to work as an electronic technician for civil service. I finally got my EE, and being fed up with the civil service nonsense, took a job with Ford Motor Company until I went with the split to Visteon last year. I got interested in music and started playing in a bluegrass band. I wanted a new guitar, and that kind of led me into woodworking. I bought some books, a few tools, and built a guitar. Luckily, I didn't know any better than to try that as a first ever project. I still play it when I get a chance, so it must not be too bad if it can live for over 20 years. After a stint in Mexico for my job, I moved into a new house and built a small shop. Since then I have been collecting tools and skills, probably more of the former than the latter ;-). Finding this site has done more for my skills and enjoyment than anything else. I have learned a lot and really enjoy the friendships that I have made here. I have been married to LOML (Lori) for 32 years now and have 6 kids. When they are all gone, I want to get a 1 bedroom house (so there is not room for them to move back in) and at least a 6 car heated/air conditioned garage for a shop. (Dream on...)

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11/27/06, 4:43 PM #3

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>Part of the reason it's so small is that the image is carrying extensive "meta data".

In particular it has EXIF information that describe the condition undeer which the photo was taken, and a built-in thumbnail.

Now, in a 3 megabyte image, you don't mind 16K of "clutter", but when yer' heading for 40k, 16 starts to hurt.

You need to look in your application for options with names like "for web", or "strip" etc.

BugBear (who's specific knowledge is Linux, so not applicable directly)

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11/27/06, 4:49 PM #4

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Re: picture sizing, there must be a better way *LINK*

Todd Stock

>Microsoft has the Image Resizer PowerToy, which will reduce any shot to one of four sizes, including small (640x480), hand-held PDA (340 x 320), and a couple larger sizes. Download and install, then right-click on an image to pull up the 'Resize Image' option. The atatched was a 1.2MB file that i just resized to the 'hand-held PDA' size...

For Windows XP.

MS Image Resizer PowerToy

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11/27/06, 5:21 PM #5

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"jpeg resampler" *LINK*

Andrew F in Australia

>Hi Bill,

This takes about 20 seconds, and it's freeware.

Works quite well - you set what parameters you want the finished image to have, then press 'go'

It'll reliably make a 39kB image for posting purposes

Andrew

http://software.macek.cc/resampler.php

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11/27/06, 5:28 PM #6

SteveM
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Paint - streach/skew - 85 % - done.

SteveM

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11/27/06, 5:53 PM #7

Pam Niedermayer
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Did I see that photo on ebay recently?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

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11/27/06, 5:55 PM #8

Dan Moening in cool Sacramento
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Dan Moening in cool Sacramento

>I use a freeware program called PIXresizer that can be found here:

http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm

It's a small, tight program that offers many features.

~Dan.

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11/27/06, 6:04 PM #9

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Dean Boyers

>Another vote for Pix Resizer - you can do one picture or a batch -easy.

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11/27/06, 7:23 PM #10

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA
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Me three. Very easy to use

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

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11/27/06, 7:42 PM #11

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Here is what I do to resize...

Donald Pierson

>I use MS Paint. Load your image into ms paint and select image/attributes which will tell you the size of the image's file. Use the calculator and divide 39,000 by the image's size. Then take the square root of the resulting fraction. For example 39,000/64,000=0.609375 and the square root is 0.78...Go to MS Paint Image/Stretch and Skew and enter the square root times 100...78% for this example into the Horizontal and Vertical boxes, click OK and then save the new resized image. Use this new image in your "Post Response".

It shouldn't be difficult for the image resizing to be made automatic in the "Post Response" web page. For example in posting images to Yahoo Groups Photo Albums the resizing is automatic.

Don in Vancouver,WA,USA

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11/27/06, 9:07 PM #12

Bill Tindall, E.TN.
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HELP!

bill tindall, E. TN

>I fetched the recommended porgram. Tried to use it and for shrinking it gives me sizes and percentages of original image as options. Not a hint how to make it 39.9 KB.

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11/27/06, 9:15 PM #13

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Andrew F in Australia

>HI BIll,

Try the program that I linked to in this post (Jpeg resampler.)

It's very user friendly.

Cheers,

Andrew

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11/27/06, 9:24 PM #14

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Now there is something I understand

bill tindall, E. TN

>Math I can handle, its the computer mumbo jumbo that baffles me.

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11/27/06, 10:25 PM #15

Skip in Falls Church
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Re: HELP!

Skip in Falls Church

>I agree with Andrew. Just put in the size you want it to be and it does it.

Skip

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11/28/06, 2:23 AM #16

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How about this?

Dan Donaldson

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I have been woodworking for about 25 years now, and would consider myself an enthusiastic amateur. My claim to fame (or infamy) has always been fixing stuff. I spent time in the Air Force in the 60's then went to work as an electronic technician for civil service. I finally got my EE, and being fed up with the civil service nonsense, took a job with Ford Motor Company until I went with the split to Visteon last year. I got interested in music and started playing in a bluegrass band. I wanted a new guitar, and that kind of led me into woodworking. I bought some books, a few tools, and built a guitar. Luckily, I didn't know any better than to try that as a first ever project. I still play it when I get a chance, so it must not be too bad if it can live for over 20 years. After a stint in Mexico for my job, I moved into a new house and built a small shop. Since then I have been collecting tools and skills, probably more of the former than the latter ;-). Finding this site has done more for my skills and enjoyment than anything else. I have learned a lot and really enjoy the friendships that I have made here. I have been married to LOML (Lori) for 32 years now and have 6 kids. When they are all gone, I want to get a 1 bedroom house (so there is not room for them to move back in) and at least a 6 car heated/air conditioned garage for a shop. (Dream on...)

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11/28/06, 3:19 AM #17

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WOW!!!

Steve Kubien

>Now seeing it larger, I am even more impressed than before. Great job! I love Krenov's style.

Steve Kubien

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11/28/06, 1:41 PM #18

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Don't Think So...

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>Still safe and sound in it's case, and getting better every day.

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11/28/06, 4:52 PM #19

V Parisian
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Double WOW. Excellent work.

V Parisian

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11/28/06, 5:11 PM #20

Dan Moening in cool Sacramento
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Re: HELP!

Dan Moening in cool Sacramento

>Oops, sorry perhaps I misunderstood your original question.

My digital camera (Olympus 3.3 megapixal) takes pictures in a number of resolutions. IIRC the highest resolution will make an image that is 2048 x 1536 ( a quick search of my harddisk shows an file size at that resolution of 675 kb).

If I take that image and reduce to 400 x 300 maintaining the aspect ratio (the same horizontal and vertical ratio) I end up with an image that is 33.1 kb.

If the original picture is taken at a lower resolution (as I often do) the reduced image results in sizes typically ranging less than 30kb, and closer to 20kb.

However, Andrew is correct there is not a way to *select* 39.9kb using PIXresizer that I am aware of. It is designed more for web developers to fit pictures on a screen.

~Dan.

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11/28/06, 8:47 PM #21

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Bob Lemon, Sacramento CA

>Bill,

First off, you could have linked to the picture you posted on the regular forum, (like I just did). The follow should help you process the photos for posting in less than a minute, once you learn how.

If you download 'Photofiltre' (not Photofiltre Studio) (free) you will have a relatively easy program to use for sizing pictures. This program allows all kinds of fancy things, but most important are contrast, brightness, and focus. After importing, click the right mouse, 'image size'. You can use a maximum size of 640 x 480 pixels for posting on the internet. I use a resolution of 72 pixels per inch. When you are through processing, right click 'save as' and proceed. (I usually save to the desk top.) Name you photo, save as jpeg and press 'OK'. You will now get a window that says 'Jpeg compression' Adjust compression for 40K or less, then click 'OK'. Now you are ready to post on 'optional graphic upload'. Click on 'browse' and import from your file (desktop).

Bob Lemon

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11/28/06, 9:47 PM #22

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA
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So...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Ya going to tell us how you did it?

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11/29/06, 2:33 AM #23

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Totally agree. This is what I use.

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

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11/29/06, 4:35 AM #24

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Re: So... *LINK*

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>In this case I used MS Photodraw v2 just because I have it and am used to it. I resized it to 600 pixels wide, then adjusted the compression to get it below 40K. That was it. I also did it in Irfanview just as an exercise and that worked fine also. Took me a little longer because i don't use Irfanview all the time, and I had to hunt through the menus a bit. I have attached a link to a little tutorial I drafted up, but never cleaned up and posted. It might be of interest to you. I used Irfanview in it because it is a pretty good program, quite a few people seemed to be using it, and it is free ;-)

A picture tutorial

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I have been woodworking for about 25 years now, and would consider myself an enthusiastic amateur. My claim to fame (or infamy) has always been fixing stuff. I spent time in the Air Force in the 60's then went to work as an electronic technician for civil service. I finally got my EE, and being fed up with the civil service nonsense, took a job with Ford Motor Company until I went with the split to Visteon last year. I got interested in music and started playing in a bluegrass band. I wanted a new guitar, and that kind of led me into woodworking. I bought some books, a few tools, and built a guitar. Luckily, I didn't know any better than to try that as a first ever project. I still play it when I get a chance, so it must not be too bad if it can live for over 20 years. After a stint in Mexico for my job, I moved into a new house and built a small shop. Since then I have been collecting tools and skills, probably more of the former than the latter ;-). Finding this site has done more for my skills and enjoyment than anything else. I have learned a lot and really enjoy the friendships that I have made here. I have been married to LOML (Lori) for 32 years now and have 6 kids. When they are all gone, I want to get a 1 bedroom house (so there is not room for them to move back in) and at least a 6 car heated/air conditioned garage for a shop. (Dream on...)

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11/29/06, 1:49 PM #25

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Irfanview is a great program

V Parisian

>It has been around for several years now (10+?) It is easy to use and the price is right. - Free. goe here for downloads.

http://getanysoftware.com/Irfanview/

Victor - in balmy Houston

picture sizing, there must be a better way

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