Est. 1998 — 27 years of woodworking knowledge
Why fan the flames by reposting it?
John in New Mexico
>The deliberate spite of even the edited post is clear enough. Kinda inconsistent with attempting to pursue legal action too. Don't ask the moderators to leave that garbage up, their interests here are not necessarily the same as yours, and as they "own" the forum by proxy, their interests come first, end of story.
By all means defend your honor, but please try not to make matters worse.
John
Nope! Still here.
woodburnbob
Tony, I once knew a guy named Oreolt ..........
cooper suter
>...last time I heard he was working security at a hotel/convention center outside Chicago.
Couldn't be could it? ;)
Coop
PS, Or maybe he was the guy at that equipment rental place in Akron? ;)
Questions
Todd Hughes
>I don't know anything about any of this but was just a wondering about a couple things....
At the auction what was the final high bid price that the plane went for ? you didn't say that the price the original poster said it went for 21000 pounds was wrong I noticed ....was that it?
Leach said the reserve was over $20,000 and you said you would tell anyone what it was...what was the reserve?
Apparently as you state the plane was sold privetly after the auction for over $8,000 US less then the reserve [and maybe over $8,000 less then it's high non reserve reaching high bid]
I am not speaking to this particular case, again I have no first hand knowledge about it so I can't,....but as sombody that has gone to many many auctions everything from $2 beanie babys to million dollar Horses I have to think I know a little about them.
.... OK When people see somthing get bid up high and it doesn't hit the reserve and then that item gets sold privetly by the auctioner in the "parking lot" [or office, bath room, kitchen etc.] for lots less then the reserve or even worse lots less then what the final high bid was you got to sort of figure most people will tend to think somthing smells fishy Now I am NOT saying anything crooked was going on here but just one of those things that makes most experanced auction people go ...Hmmmmm?
...Also some would think it strange for a consigner to have the auctioner sell the plane privetly to somebody that had contacted him [the consigner] about it befor the auction instead of the owner just selling it to them thierselves....Though maybe if it was finaly sold for less then it's the high non reserve reaching bid price it brings up another interesting question was the final auction fee less for the consigner since it was sold for 16,000 instead of not hitting it's 20,000 plus reserve?
...Have to admit to never seeing or hearing an auctioner doing anything like this and while I am not talking about this auction I would personaly consider it a bit unusual
Again I don't know anything about this particular auction one way or the other.But when it comes to stuff like this often more important then if the deal was legit is if the deal looks legit and doesn't come across as being "funny"......Todd
Re: Tony, I once knew a guy named Oreolt .........
tony murland
>hi coop ,have finally cracked it..........oreolt is an anagram for tooler.....so now we know we know who this snake in the grass is !!!
i cannot wait to see him next trip.......made some new friends in an establishment in Kane county who will help me put this to bed ....yes thats right .......flowerbed !!!
Re: Why fan the flames by reposting it?
Mark Nowicki
>They already did make it worse. Mr. Murland is making death treats, and Mr. Leach has launched a personal attack on Pam. IMO, all they have to defend are their commercial interests.
Pox on all the peddlers.
Mark Nowicki
Mr Murland - Who's he?
Steve Oreolt
>Hey Patrick, who is this *MR* Murland you talk about again and again. Isn't it: ma buddy Tony? - or maybe you think a goofy audience doesn't know that you spend more time with each other than you do your wives. Let me remind you and those that don't know: he's the guy at the auctions you arrive with, leave with, stand with; go off in the truck and tool hunt with; patrols the entrance to the parking lot with you stopping cars and asking what people have in their trunks; marches over with you whenever a trunk goes up in the parking lot; passes the tools to you when you 'block' for him at the trunks of cars. OH,gee, yes, and he's the guy you pushed up the bidding for on the Norris plane at the auction, coz he's your buddy. Something really stinks about you, him and that auction. Keep up the good work - the more you write, the more it stinks. When you are in a hole, neck deep, don't keep digging.