Millers Falls 2B

Re: Millers Falls 2B

Todd Hughes

>The 2B was a cheaper drill,cost $4.30 compared to $5.30 for the no. 2 back in the 1930s. The 2B had a solid mahogany finish handle which didn't have a drill storage compartment like the no.2...While back I listed a very nice one of these cheaper MF drills with the solid handle on the ebay and couldn't get $15 for it.....Todd

Re: Millers Falls 2B

Michael Brady

>Thanks for the info, Todd. So I have nice useable tool at a very good price. Did notice the same drill in similar condition for $95.00 at one web dealer. Caveat emptor.

Re: Millers Falls 2B

Dave Thompson

>Ofcourse, I'll defer to Todd who deals more regularly in this market... but a few years ago when I was in the market for a Millers Falls #2 type (2, 2A, 2B...), my impression was that I was competing with collectors for the premium ones. A user #2 with a wobbly handle, chipped paint and some rust could be gotten for $20. A new one with cosmoline and in a box could bring in close to a $100. I might have been missing some distinguishing collector characteric in the product I was watching.

Though a couple of weeks ago, to my amazement, I saw a nice #2 (?2A?) (newish looking) go for $20.

...unless you're planning to sell it, just enjoy it and know that you certainly didn't over pay. BTW, I'll give you $20 for it sans cosmoline ;-)

Dave

HIJACK-Hey Todd

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.

>While back I listed a very nice one of these cheaper MF drills with the solid handle on the ebay and couldn't get $15 for it

Todd,

Would you agree or disagree that the recent hikes in the cost of gasoline has effected e-bay sales? I know I've let several things go that I would of bought back a few months ago when gasoline was only $1.50.

Todd O.

Re: Millers Falls 2B

Michael Brady

>Thanks again for the insight. I will keep it because I need the tool in my shop amd I felt very lucky to find it ( It was sitting on a WWII flight jacket). I did remove the grease and cleaned everything well and reoiled it. I can't say that it was new, but it had light use. I would like to know when it was made...it says Greenfield Mass on the crank, and I think that narrows down the date; since it does not say Millers Falls Mass.

Re: HIJACK-Hey Todd

todd hughes

>Have to admit I don't see any downward...or upward trends on the ebay. Things come and go yes but on the whole I think it is about the same as it has been. I know I feel I do very well selling on there still. I don't see any affect the higher gas prices has at the flea markets and auctions I go to either other then people complaining. I get close to 40 MPG in my Honda so doesn't really affect me that much. If prices do get high enough so that it does affect people I think it may lead to higher prices on the ebay since more people may stay home and buy off it...but then again more people may sell on it too so don't know.

Will point out that these Millers Falls no.2 drills , the more common ones that have the storage space in the handle and not the solid handle ones , can if in nice condition do very well on ebay. Sold one for $70+ and another for over $60 a while back which caused me to buy the solid handle one [$3] which fizzled when I listed it. Tool buyers , esp. users , are a finicky bunch and if something is not exactly what they might have read they should have they won't buy it. Of course both of these drills will work just as well but people want the one with the storage handle and will pay more for it....Todd

Re: Millers Falls 2B

Roger Nixon

>One thing to keep in mind is that prices vary widely depending on the venue. Generally speaking, tools on ebay fetch lower prices than they do at a tool specific auction.

Another is that some tools, such as drilling tools, are way underappreciated. Braces, eqgbeaters, et al are real bargains for the user crowd. For your $8 you have a fine tool that will be a pleasure to use for many years.

Re: HIJACK-Hey Todd

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>40 miles per gallon huh? I wonder if I can get a Honda engine into my S-10. Coarse it won't get 40 mpg as it is heavier than your Honda, but should do better than my 4.3 is getting.

I'm going to hang on to the S-10 for as long as I can before buying a hybred as I want all the bugs worked out of them before I get into one, plus I want a pickup. I also wonder if and when the Ethonol becomes more redily available if I can burn it in my current engine, or if I'd have to make some modifications to it.

Soon, it'll be cheaper per month to make payments on a hybred than it will be to buy gasoline. I say good riddence to gasoline anyhow, to many environmental and political problems associated with it in my opinion.

Todd O.

Is that...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond, CA

>4.3 gallons per mile? Sounds like your driving a tank...;^)

Re: Is that...

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.

>No Scott the 4.3 is the displacement of the engine, which is in this case stated in the amount of oil it will hold. I remember when engines where "sized" by the number of cc's, such as the Chevy 350. I have no idea the cc's of my 4.3.

Perhaps the manufactures came up with the oil capacity way of stating the size of te engine so as not to scare off customers, much like Kentucky Fried Chicken went to the KFC slogan in an attempt to get the word "fried" out of the publics mind.

Todd O.

Hey, Todd IS driving a Chevrolet

Bill Houghton, sunny today yahoo in Sebastopol, CA

>not famous for their gas mileage.

But I suspect he means a 4.3 liter (that's "litre" to Bugbear and Alf) engine.

4.3 probably means

Bill Houghton, sunny today yahoo in Sebastopol, CA

>liters, which is analogous to 1000 cubic centimeters.

I guess the manufacturers thought it sounded cooler or something.

4.3 means engine displacement

Denis Ch�nard, Orl�ans, Ont.

>i.e. the sum of the individual displacement (volume) for all six cylinders.

4.3 litre amounts to 262 cid (1 litre = 61 cu. in. apprr.)

All auto companies now use the metric system, this way they can source parts anywhere in the world...

DC

Or more likely

Raymond in Trenton, NJ

>How many tool chests can fit in the back. It is an S-10 after all ;o)

Raymond

who's not even thinking it could also be the number of people needed to push it to the gas station.

Re: Or more likely

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native now in Jax Fl.

>So far Ray I've yet to have it strand me while on the road. did strand me at home a few times when the temps dropped into the 40's. when it does that it goes from being an S-10 to being a SOB-10. ;~)

I'm not sure, but I think I may have licked the "won't start when it cold" problem. I think the coolant was low, and therefore the computer was getting erronous onfo and wouldn't start. Just a theory tho as once I filled up the coolant it never got cold enough to prove or disprove this.

However, ever the Optimist me is merrily skipping along in complete bliss, totally oblivious to the lurking impending doom.

Todd O.

la-la-lalalala ;~)