So I bought my first hand planes today,

Re: So I bought my first hand planes today,

David W. Dougherty

>Since you've asked for favorites, my sharpening kit consists of:

1. Delta 6" variable speed grinder for basic shaping (used only on lowest setting);

2. Norton 1000 and 4000 waterstones (I rarely use the 4000);

3. King Deluxe Gold polishing stone (roughly 8000);

4. Norton 8x3x1/2 translucent arkansas stone (for touching up carving gouges) and Norton honing oil (or mineral oil);

5. Eclipse-style jig;

6. Horse butt leather on a maple block and cardboard for stropping material (cardboard makes AWESOME stropping material for carving gouges--AWESOME);

7. White honing compound sold by Everett Ellenwood (www.ellenwoodarts.com);

8. 1/4 glass and drywall screens for flattening waterstones

9. 8" mill file

10. Veritas teardrop burnisher

11. Norton medium India stone

The last three tools are what I use to shape my scrapers.

Pretty simple kit.

Re: So I bought my first hand planes today,

Victor P

>Go to this link great jig for sharpening...

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51868&cat=1,43072,43078

Regards, Victor in rainy/sunny/rainy - Houston

No slippery slope? Yeah Right!

Jerry Nicholson

>Next you need a smoothing plane, then you won't be able to live without a #7, #6, #5 1/2, #5 1/4, #4 1/2, #3.... heavy duty blades, heavy duty chip breakers. Then comes the grinder, the stones, the LV sharpening jig. And the pixie dust, er I mean the diamond paste, scraps of Corian smeared with that magic flattening compound. You will be sneaking planes into the house hoping your wife won't see what you are doing. HOOKED!!!! DAMHIKT! Myself, I'm not addicted, I have everything under control. After all, I only own about 30 Stanley's. And some Sargents. And some LVs. And a couple of wooden planes (actually, about 15).

Jerry

Re: No slippery slope? Yeah Right!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Now Jerry, don't be to harsh on Steve for he knows not what he says. We all remember the days, back in our innocence when we said to ourselves, "I'm not going to become an addict like those other guys", and besides another tool dosen't make me a collector I need this tool. Uh huh, we call this Tool Junkies Rationale.

Once Rob Lee sends him a catalog he'll be toast, he just dosen't know it yet. ;~)

Todd O.

Re: No slippery slope? Yeah Right!

Frank D. in Montreal

>A good thing about the slope is that once you get beyond a certain point your wife doesn't notice one more plane. :^)

Re: No slippery slope? Yeah Right!

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>That's because you've gotten better at sneaking them in. :~)

T.O.

Re: So I bought my first hand planes today,

JimG

>Congrats, Steve!

Go here for scary sharp:

http://www.shavings.net/

I personally use waterstones. Toolsforworkingwood has a nice starter set, however, you will eventually want a 8000 grit. So you might be better off with a 800 grit or so, a 4000 grit or so and a 8000 grit. Combination stones also help alleviate some of the initial cost and they last a good long while.

Lee Valley has the best sharpening jigs, IMHO. I still have the original, but they recently came out with a new one.

Here's a link to a homemade jig:

http://www.seadercraft.com/model_woodwork.html

There's also a freehand sharpening article here from woodcentral:

http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=handtools&file=articles_556.

Watch out if you use a grinding wheel. You can burn the metal and remove the hardness quickly. Then it will never keep an edge until you remove the burnt part.

HTH

jim

Re: So I bought my first hand planes today,

JimG

>PS - when you hear a distinct slicing sound (hard to describe but kinda like a schzzz sound)when planing, your blades are sharp.

I believe this is called enabling

Steve in Phoenix

>But thanks, you guys are great!

Any favorite holders or othe accessories for scrapers? I really need to find some info on planers and their use in general before I go too gangbusters.

Re: So I bought my first hand planes today,

paul womack

>The Veritas MK II is a great jig. I own and use one.

But for Bailey pattern plane blades, a simple side clamper, in conjunction with a projection setting jig to provide speed and perfect repeatability for set up, is a better solution.

Since side clampers are cheap, I'd say get both.

pictures

BugBear

I prefer *LINK*

Bruce, a MN Galoot

>the Lee Valley grinding jig


LV Grinding Jig

Re: I believe this is called enabling

Bruce, a MN Galoot

>no holder is really necessary for a card scraper. All you need is a scraper, a good flat file, a fine stone to take out the filing marks and a burnisher.

Oh yeah, a vise to hold the scraper while you're filing it, a bench to hold the vise, a shop to house the bench...

Enabling? bwaaaa hhaaaaa haaaa haaaa...

bruce, who slid down that slope a long time ago.

I prefer intervention or evangelizing

JimG

>Saving another soul from the demon tailed side.....

Re: No slippery slope? Yeah Right!

Dick Schafer

>Yea, that's around 30 or so, I'm up to 50 something.

Enabling?! Ha! It's blatant.....

Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Shoving you down the Slippery Slope!

Hey Misery loves company ya know. ;~)

Todd O.

Re: Enabling?! Ha! It's blatant.....

Kevin French, Antrim NH

>Don't worry about the Slippery Slope Steve. There are many opportunities to exit the slope, though they are not well marked. If you do pick up too much speed, and I'm sure you won't, but IF you do, just look for one of those emergency truck ramps, also not well mark.

If you do find yourself hurtling down out of control, seek out the local chapter of HTA (Hand Tools Anonymous) OR you could, as a last resort ONLY, tell SWMBO how much you're spending on HTs -THAT OUGHT'A STOP THE SLIDE!

I like the Veritas MKII, but

Steve in Phoenix

>it seems expensive, is there a more cost effective option for a plane novice like me?

Re: I like the Veritas MKII, but

Frank D. in Montreal

>Look at BugBear's (Paul Womack) link above. Around here Footprint sells copies of the Eclipse guide for around 10 bucks. You can't do microbevels without a little more fuss, but that's a minor disadvantage. All you have to do is reset the blade (just move it in a little and retighten) or lift the wheel off the stone a little for the final passes on your polishing stone (that's what I do). This guide also lets you do narrow chisels, something which the top-clamping LV guides have always had trouble with. It's a great guide for a very reasonable price.

You might also want to look around for a LV MKI (the first version of the Veritas guide); many people have switched to the MKII and are dumping their MKIs for cheap.

Re: HTA?

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Are you sure you got the right organization, there? Most who need help bad would recommend the SGFH.

Are you sure you got the right organization?

HC Sakman @ Victoria, BC

>It's TCA as far as I know.

You get up at the meeting and say: "My name is .... and I am a Tool Collector."

Then the healing is supposed to start but I find these meetings having the extreme reverse effect on the patients. So, join TCA at your own risk.

Chico...

Re: So I bought my first hand planes today, *LINK*

Walt Q

>I tried to warn him off guys...honest...told him not to step too near the edge...but them we got talking about scrapers....and you know, I have this terrible scraper problem...everytime I see one I have to pick it up....well, after talking up a storm about scraping and sharpening and scary sharp and rolling burrs and jigs and wood and planes.......I think he misstepped and just.....slipped

IT WASN"T MY FAULT....HONEST!!!!!

Steve,

Hope you enjoy the tools...take it to heart that sharpening is the key, that and technique...any other questions...just give me a shout. Nice to see new people getting into the old ways..

Walt Q


http://pages.cthome.net/bcrgraphics/toolindex.html

Thanks Walt, but

Steve in Phoenix

>be careful what you offer, I have unlimited long distance minutes!

Seriously, thanks for the great advice and I look forward to getting my hands on the planes.

Steve

Re: Abandon hope, all ye who enter here

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Naw, their motives are much more insidious than that. Even before there was a WoodCentral Hand Tool forum or a Badger Pond Neanderthal Haven, there were these OldTool guys who simply called themselves "the Front Porch" (as in "Come on up and set a spell.") By the time the dilettante realizes what is really happening here, and that he has no hope of redemption, the meaning of the term SGFH* loses all it's irony.

*Support Group From Hell

Yes My Lord... Indeed, you speak the truth.

HC Sakman @ Victoria, BC

>