Record Factoids for hand plane geeks

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Scott Burr windy and raining in Ben Lomond,CA

>Record as well as Stanley's quality fell over the years. Record's quality fell later in years IMHO.

That's the one!

Scott Burr windy and raining in Ben Lomond,CA

>Your catalog has more ram than me...

Tea & Biscuits? :~)

Alice Frampton, UK

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Re: Record start date.

Alice Frampton, UK

>Preston were taken over in 1932 by John Rabone & Sons Ltd, then officially sold to C & J Hampton (Record) in October 1934 - but there seems to have been some sort of connection slightly prior to that. Record started making planes in 1931.

Cheers, Alf

Re: Numbers Don't Tell the Whole Story

Alice Frampton, UK

>USA-made Stanleys are a good deal rarer, at least IME (but then, like you, Todd, I live in Old Tool Hell). As an example, I've never ever seen a wartime Stanley :~) 'Course Stanley had a huge head start and woodworkers have a habit of loyalty to particular brands, not to mention the whole patriotic-buying effect. Stanley didn't have quite the major disruption during WWII that Record suffered either (or for as long...), or the subsequent extreme shortages afterwards I imagine?

Cheers, Alf

Re: Record Factoids for hand plane geeks

paul womack

>You are the man for this job.

Afraid not. To make a B&G one needs a wide range of accurately dated models.

I do not have this. I suspect John Horobin does - at least more than me.

BugBear

Re: Numbers Don't Tell the Whole Story

paul womack

>Have to confess that I don't know exactly when Record started to make planes but most of the Stanleys I see are from the 1920-50 period and I believe Record was also making tools during this same time period...

I suspect the Atlantic is an adequate explanation for the small number of Stanley planes from that era in the UK, and the small number of Record planes from that era in the USA.

Also, IIRC both governments had tariff barriers. Tends to reduce trade.

BugBear

Re: Numbers Don't Tell the Whole Story

Alister

>Puting that through a different filter...or ocean ,the pacific.

Growing up in NZ there were a lot of record planes about and alot of the stanley stuff was marked Canada so I think trade barriers were probably the reason..

Sun never set you know!!

Yes, that works well

Bill Houghton, cold and rainy in Sebastopol, CA

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Between 1938 & 1950

Patrick Gibbons, Houston

>I believe it was a little thing called World War II, and most particularly in this case, the Battle of Britain. Just as was the case in the US, manufacturing and production were otherwise spoken for during the war and afterward during reconstruction.

And when exactly......

Jeff Schmidt

>......... in the U.S., did they start selling them in those niche tool distributors?

Re: I've Heard

Jeff Schmidt

>I don't know if the instruction sheet publishing date is an accurate gauge. It is hard to tell from this picture but it is a good sign if there is the red paint around the Record name in the lever cap. Another good sign is if the lateral aduster has the separate tab piece at the top as opposed to the bent over "ears" of the later years.

IMHO, Record built a decent plane many years after Stanley.

Course, if we had that type study.....:-)

Re: I've Heard....

Alice Frampton, UK

>Going by the box and Harrison's info, between 1972 and '82.

Cheers, Alf

Re: Record Factoids for hand plane geeks

John Horobin

>Yes,

I really need to find a bit of time to complete this. I'll see what i can do over the next few weeks. There are still Record planes I have not found - in spite of years of searhing.

John