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New Lie-Nielsen from Wood Show - Update

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New Lie-Nielsen from Wood Show - Update

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New Lie-Nielsen from Wood Show - Update

John Weber - GO BUCKS!

>Update from earlier post about a LN No. 6. I was all set to pick up the LN No. 6 at the Wood Show today in Columbus. But things didn't go exactly as planned. I bee-lined for the LN booth and quickly had then No. 6 in my hand. Felt great! Deneb Puchalski was doing the demo and his sister was working the booth. The number six would fill a void in my "collection", so it was high on the list. Deneb quickly directed me toward a No. 8 as a more useful plane since I mentioned I was considering that as well. He then went on for over an hour demonstrating; flattening, sharpening, and general plane use. Deneb is excellent and gave me tons of pointers. I have some "form" issues with the larger planes and the pointers were very well received, and I look forward to working on my technique. He also had some great tips on sharpening and uses the basic Charlesworth method I use.

So now I'm convinced I would like the No. 8. I needed to grab some lunch and meet up with my Dad and Uncle so I decided to let the purchase settle a bit. On my return I spoke mostly with Deneb�s sister (sorry I didn't get the name - but she was very friendly and helpful). Herself an accomplished woodworker, she had plenty of pointers and ideas to answer my questions from before lunch. Since I already have a No. 7 we discussed how the No. 8 might be redundant. And I might be able to exchange my No. 7 for and 8 if I would prefer the extra mass and size. So I was back to looking at the No. 6. As we discussed the bench line, the 10-1/4 caught my eye. While I had not really been considering it at the time, I picked it up. It felt great, nice weight, and the hinged knob and tote made holding it very comfortable. After a little more discussion, I said I'll take it!

So after several hours most of which was spent at the LN booth I have a new 10-1/4 on the way. I think it made the most sense as it will add some capability, and just seems like a very well made plane. I still wouldn't mine adding a 6 or 8 at some point - maybe next year, and appreciate all the comments earlier. I hadn't done any research on the 10-1/4, but after checking it out, I don't think it will disappoint.

As for the show, it was a little slow this year, deals were few, but the seminars were very good and my "lessons" at the LN booth were well worth the trip.

Thanks again - John

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HC Sakman

>Hi John,

Having #5-1/2 & #7 kinda eliminates the "desperete" need for either #6 or #8. Good choice with #10-1/4!

Enjoy.

Chico...

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Jeff Heath in Crystal Lake

>John- Like Chico, I agree that you made an excellent choice. I have the 5 1/2, 6, and 7. The 6 never gets touched. My last purchase was the #9 miter plane, so I don't have to use my 605 on it's side anymore. What a great plane! I like it so much, I made a nice new shooting board for it.

Enjoy Jeff

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Until your post reminded me...

Chuck Nickerson

>it had been two days since I last thought of Deneb's sister. Thanks for the reminder. :-)

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HC Sakman

>#9 is my next in line!

Chico...

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paul womack

>Deneb quickly directed me toward a No. 8 as a more useful plane

Did he make any (comparitive) reference to the #7 1/2?

BugBear

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Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Nice Score John

I have the LN 5.5 and LN 8. Don't see a need for the 6 or 7 as I am quite happy with what I have.

My next two LN planes will be the 9 or the 10 1/4 unless of course they come out with a bronze 4.5 which is reasonably priced

Cheers

Dan Clermont

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Deneb's Comments on the 7-1/2

Todd Stock

>Deneb and I talked about the #7-1/2 last year at the Chantilly, VA show. I was on the fence re: a 7-1/2 to replace a late '70's Record #8, and had some questions re: lack of adjustable mouth. Deneb proceeded to work some curly maple with the 7-1/2 (very light cut with sharp blade), but said that Tom had really designed the plane to work in softwoods (spruce, etc.) as a spar plane for roughing out the taper and 8-siding/16 siding before rounding things off from the partners on up (LN has an decent-sized following in the wooden boatbuilding community).

When I commented on the number of likely users, he said that Tom makes the tools he wants to make, and that he is not really driven by LCD tool demand. Deneb also stated his opinion that the 7-1/2 was a nice, light plane for this work, or for outboard joinery (where the tool is often either overhead or held at arm's length), but the #7 or #8 were by far the better tools for general use.

I do feel like a bit of a wimp for going to a #7 after 25 years using a #8 (22 of it with #8 as the only tool used for the job), but the lighter weight makes a difference at the end of the day.

I def understand the attraction of the 10-1/4 - a useful tool for leveling joists adjacent to posts (on inset-post decks...the only kind I've built lately), and has all the other virtues of the jack, save for shooting. Also a decent expedient scrub plane re: Aldren Watson's rationale (I am now down to hauling the 10-1/4 and a 60-1/2 - on belt pouch - when I am on site).

And yes - his sister was wonderfully helpful...

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John Weber - GO BUCKS!

>Chico,

I don't do much timber framing :-), but could still envision several uses for the 10-1/4, plus it's just a very nice well made plane.

John

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John Weber - GO BUCKS!

>I almost went for the No. 9, also a very nice plane, but for now I just liked the 10-1/4 better. I think I'll work on filling in some of the speciality planes before looking again at the 6/8. Hopefully next year I can add the 9.

John

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John Weber - GO BUCKS!

>Dan,

I was kind of hoping to at least see the bronze 4-1/2, but it wasn't at the show. The 10-1/4 and hopefully a 9 at some point, will be nice planes to own.

John

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Re: Until your post reminded me...

John Weber - GO BUCKS!

>She is very sweet.

John

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John Weber - GO BUCKS!

>We really didn't look into the 7-1/2. It's a nice plane. What he really did sell me on is a toothing blade for my 62. I should have ordered it at the show, but my CC was already burning a little. It really makes the 62 a great plane for the early flatening steps (removing cups, twist, etc...), not as aggressive as a scrub, but does an excellent job.

John

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Re: Deneb's Comments on the 7-1/2

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>IIRC Katlin(Caitlin,Caitlyn) is Tom Lie-Nielsens daughter and Denebs wife. Makes Deneb Toms son-in-law.

Wish I knew how she spells her name...:-(

And she knows her stuff.

On another note, can you make it to the breakfast Saturday Todd?JR

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Playing the Devil's advocate here: What's wrong with using a 605 (or L-N #7, for that matter) on it's side? I'm not arguing the desire for or the desirability of a L-N #9, or even something really, really special by Wayne Anderson or other custom plane builder, but it seems to me that a Bailey or Bedrock bench plane is more than sufficient for use in a shooting board.

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Sir of Cohansey...

HC Sakman

>I thought you would be an excellent interpreter to the feelings of mortals with full of desire to collect (preferably "use" as well) hand tools, especially handplanes. Where did I go wrong your highness?

Otherwise who am I to question what you had suggested; Furthermore, I can not deny the practicality of your suggestion, though as I mentioned before, there are other ambitions of mankind in this subject matter which also can not be denied nor surpressed!

Chico... ;-) (mortal plane user & collector)

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Re: Sir of Cohansey...

William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I actually had my mitts around a L-N #9 this afternoon. I gritted my teeth, closed my eyes, and put it back on the shelf. As much as I would like to add another L-N to my toolbox, I figured I really needed to spend the money on gas and food, instead. There were other temptressess on the same shelf, including a curved sole Boggs spokeshave. In the long run, I think that one will be even more difficult to resist.

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Re: Sir of Cohansey...

HC Sakman

>Hi Sir William,

This is one area that I haven't talked much about. I've both LN and LV spokeshaves, and for $ per $ value, I vote for LV. You won't regret it.

Chico...

PS:LN #9 is very attractive indeed, otherwise I have ton of other planes to do the job of #9. So, still contemplating....

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