OK, now I'm asking about side rabbets

Re: Preston 1st - when?

joel -( tools for working wood)

>Preston was bought by Record in 1932. in 1909 Preston made adjustable side rabbets. I don't know when Searget started making the non-adjustable version or when Preston/record introducted their non-adjustable version.

Re: Preston 1st - when?

John Fitzpatrick

>Joel/Bugbear/Alf/Anybody: have you seen examples of non-adjustable PRESTON side rebates? I've seen plenty of Record non-adjustable ones (which date 1930's or later), but the only Prestons I recall seeing are the Patent Adjustable type [but then of course, I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic].

Re: Preston 1st - when?

Joel

>I'd have to do a little more research but I don't recall a non-adjustable Side Rabbet (SR) plane under the preston banner. However there is a 1/4 century gap between the 1909 catalog and the record takeover so who knows. I would proably bet that sargent thought of the simplification first but that is a guess really.

I also doesn't matter much - all the crossed blade side rabbett are fine planes. the STanley 79 is a fine plane, the STanley 98/99 are almost fine planes (harder to handle than the 79) and having two blades down at once seems to make no differnce and you only need one fence setting with the 79.

THe adjuster is largely a waste of money although being a gizmo freak the way to complicated Preston SR plane is my favorite.

Re: Preston 1st - when?

Alice Frampton, UK

>John, you're doing better than I. Contrary to my favourite daydreams, Prestons and Records are not to be found under every rock here in Blighty, and I've never seen one at all. However, fwiw, a copy of the MAC catalogue* from April 1927 has a Preston side rebate that's a dead ringer for the Record #2506. Rosewood knob, no adjusters. The listing is far from comprehensive and the Patent adjustable one is not shown.

Cheers, Alf

* Metal Agencies Co. Ltd. Bristol. Very like the Buck and Hickman catalogues, for anyone familiar with them - many, many pages, full of tools, fixtures, fittings etc

Re: Preston 1st - when?

paul womack

>...a copy of the MAC catalogue* from April 1927...

DRIVEBY!

BugBear

Re: Preston 1st - when?

John Fitzpatrick

>Thanks for that info, Alf. So it's clear then that Preston DID come out with the non-adjustable Side Rebate before C.& J.Hampton took over the Preston plane line. Out of curiosity: does the MAC catalogue show (or mention) the presence of a depth stop?

Re: Preston 1st - when? *LINK*

Alice Frampton, UK

>John,

Yep, it lists one with, one without. As I had cause to be playing with the scanner anyway, I've put up a scan of the Preston plane page from the catalogue.

Cheers, Alf


Preston Planes

Thanks Alf !!

John Fitzpatrick

>That one's going into my archives. [I've always kept my eyes open for a reasonable Buck & Hickman catalogue... guess I should add a MAC to the list.]

Hello Alf--Big Favor... Please

Wiley Horne--Glendora, CA

>That's a great page on planes! Could you possibly post the Preston shaves page. I just came by a Preston shave (from the Leach man), and now want--no, need--to know which other ones to be looking for.

TIA, Wiley

To hear... *LINK*

Alice Frampton, UK

>... is to obey. Anything to help you down The Slope a bit further, Wiley :~) Although including the quirk router too is probably an act of cruelty...

MAC page link below. There also seems to be another one, top left in this page from the 1935 Buck & Hickman catalogue. By squinting a bit and using my imagination it does look like it says "Preston" and the EP logo on the iron. If only B&H's plates were as clear as the MACs!

Cheers, Alf


Preston Shaves

Re: To hear...

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I'm pretty sure this page is not a complete list of Preston's spokeshaves, etc. For example, I have a Preston chamfer shave that's not there.

Pam

ALF you're a fount of knowledge

Wiley Horne--Glendora, CA

>and I thank you very much for the digging you did.

That quirk router has started an itch that's gonna need scratching. I did buy a stringing router from Mr. Murland a coupla years ago and it's a very solid tool for .... well.. stringing.

Also, my shave is the one with the nickel nouveau curlicues, but does NOT have the lateral adjust. So that leaves a big wantsa also.

All in all, these Edward Preston tools are a treasure if you ask me. The chatter about them is not commensurate with their quality. I suspect the collectors amongst us are laying low, to keep the competition down to a low roar.

Thanks again, ALF Wiley

Just an over-stuffed bookshelf, Wiley

Alice Frampton, UK

>And Pam, I don't believe that's the full range either, but it's all I can find in the catalogues I have. I don't know if the Preston catalogue reprint is a better source? It should be, but they seem to have added to their line all the time so maybe not? I daren't start down the road of an interest in Preston; it's bad enough as it is!

Cheers, Alf

Re: Just an over-stuffed bookshelf, Wiley

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Me, too. I had to displace a Preston passion with miniature boxwood tools, which only occasionally include Prestons. I don't know of a better source, except what Tony and Andy list for sale, and even then photos are few and far between.

Pam

Preston 1909 catalog and spokshaves

Dave Thompson

>Yes, the 1909 catalog reprint has alot of spoke shaves... like 25 if one counts the moulding and chamfer shaves, or 15 if one doesn't.

The few that I've managed to collect are well made and perform well for me. They are common on e-bay, though I did have to pay trans-Atlantic shipping for all of them.