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Qustion about #45 Combination Plane

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Qustion about #45 Combination Plane

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Qustion about #45 Combination Plane

John Todd

>Recently aquired what I thought was a pretty good #45. I suspect it's WWII or early 50's. It's complete with all parts (except screwdriver and instructions). Seems to have been carefully used and cared for.

One question... if you have the sliding section pushed totally against the main stock should the two "skates" front and back line up totally even and "touch" pretty much the whole length of each skate, both in front of the throat opening and behind it. While there is no indication that my 45 has been dropped or anything, when they're pushed together the skates IN FRONT of the throat meet first, leaving the skates BEHIND the throat slightly apart. The cutter aligns behind the throat where it "beds" against the main stock. Because the skates don't line up perfectly, the "nicker" or "spur" won't align even with the edge of the blade, but rather slightly INSIDE the edge of the cutter. Hopefully this is clear to the reader...

Is this a problem, or am I expecting too much from a 45? Any answers will be appreciated. I can describe the problem better if needed. Thanks.

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Clarification-Qustion about #45 Combination Plane

John Todd

>The distance behind the back skates is perhaps the width of a medium thickness screwdriver blade. That would be the distance that the nicker is "inside" the outer edge of the cutter on the main (handle) side. It seems like if anything it's the front skate that is slightly "bent" inward towards the opposite mating skate. Hope this helps.

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Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>They should pretty near touch when pushed together. I got one with a bent skate - it turned out to be the sliding section - and the plane performed horribly. Take the tool apart, hold up a straight ruler beside the skate - if one is bent, you'll be able to see it pretty easily. I suspect, though this is wild unfounded speculation, that bent sliding sections are more common than bent bodies, simply because there's more mass to the body.

Fortunately, as far as I know, the sections interchange from type to type, and they show up not uncommonly on eBay, so if you do have a bent section, you should be able to replace it at not too much expense.

Let us know what you find.

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John Todd

>Upon further investigation I think I solved my own problem. The skates which are rivited on to the cast metal bodies actually seem to be pretty soft metal. I shoved the two pieces side by side as close as I could get then gently put them between the sides of a broad, smooth metal woodworking vice (without wooden faces on the jaws). I applied slow but strong pressure, checking frequently and seemed to have easily straightened them out. I rested the ridge of the body (above the skate) on the top edge of the vice, and tightened away. The nickers seem to line up "reasonably" well with the edge of the blade.

The metal seems quite soft actually on the skates... I suspect that they'll get out of wack with use again and I'll repeat the above steps.

If anybody else can verify what I've done, I'd be curious. The 45 seem to be a somewhat gimicky type of thing, probably not as precise a tolerance as the way a frog beds in a LN plane!

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frank shic (walnut ck, ca)

>john, CONGRATULATIONS! you are on the verge of having a GRAND old time plowing like a mad fiend, wondering what the big deal with ROUTERS are anyways?!? have fun!

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