Low angle plane, HA bevel � Thank you (longish)

Re: Low angle plane, HA bevel � Thank you (longish

Derek Cohen (in Perth Australia)

>Ian

I hate to burst your bubble, but a 35 degree microbevel on a 12 degree bed only gives you a 47 degree cutting angle - very far from "high angle" (i.e. closer to the standard angle of 45 degrees of Stanley bench planes). Of course, the adjustable mouth of the LN could have help, as could a sharp blade.

Try a 50 degree microbevel next time.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Re: Low angle plane, HA bevel � Thank you (longish

mikew

>Hi Ian and Derek

"Of course, the adjustable mouth of the LN could have help, as could a sharp blade."

Agreed. Flat sole, narrow mouth can work wonders.

"Try a 50 degree microbevel next time."

My opinion is that one should use the lowest effective angle that achieves the desired result...which is what Ian did. This gets the job done with less effort.

So Ian, if faced with timber the present bevel will not handle, do increase the micro bevel even more. Better yet, invest in one or two more blades that you have honed with progressively greater bevels and I think you'll find that there isn't much wood out there your LN #164 will not handle by simply swapping the blade for another.

Take care, Mike

Re: Low angle plane, HA bevel � Thank you (longish

Dan Clermont

>Congrats Ian on taming that maple and it must have been quite rewarding to do so.

If you can plane it at 47 degrees I wouldn't go any higher. A plane with a nice flat sole and tight mouth with plane most woods at 50 degrees or less. Some woods may require a 55 degree bevel but I haven't had to go there yet.

Got any pics?

Cheers

Dan Clermont

will try and get a pic or two next weekend

Ian in Sydney

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Is this a tight mouth? (rhetorical)

Ian in Sydney

>Derek. One reason I was so chuffed is that previously I've been disappointed with the performance of the #164 with it's standard 25�27� bevel blade. I had expected better. Now I know how to do better so it's thanks to you for your advice.

Mike. Yes, I have to get a second blade for the plane.

The photo is an attempt to show how tight the mouth was set.

Re: Is this a tight mouth? (rhetorical)

Derek Cohen (in Perth Australia)

>Hi Ian

I could have expressed myself better earlier on. So I will add now that what you achieved at 47 degrees (35 degree bevel on 12 degree bed) is terrific. Now think what you could achieve at 62 degrees - there are so many previously untamable Aussie woods just waiting for you!

Goodonya!

Regards from Perth

Derek

Dan, here's the pics you asked for

Ian in Sydney

>The first photo is the face as it was recieved (after just a little bit of planing) with the LN#164

The second photo (next message) is the other side of the same piece, after planing the resawn face.

Second photo � resawn face after planing 

Ian in Sydney

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Re: Dan, here's the pics you asked for

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Nicely done Ian!!! Good to see you tackle that at 47 degrees. If it were me I would not go any higher with a Bevel unless you absolutely have too.

I use a York pitch LN 5.5 for all of my difficult timbers and find the 50 degree frog with a tight mouth and sharp blade has never left a surface with tearout. It just doesn't.

Cheers

Dan Clermont