Workbench update: tomorrow begins the glue up! *LINK*

Re: Workbench update: tomorrow begins the glue up!

Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>I would use a 3" foam paint roller to apply glue, will go on faster and a more even coat than the paint brush. The other thing is to get it clamped together before the glue sets up.

Re: Thanks Moses; good idea.

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

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Re: Workbench update: tomorrow begins the glue up!

Marc Burt

>I find that the foam roller soaks up the glue too much and I get 'puddles' in places I apply too much pressure...which in turn results in too much squeezout which begets a frustrating/messy glue up etc. I prefer to use the really really cheap disposable 3" cloth rollers you find anywhere...even the DollarTree around here. I'm talking about the kind that comes with it's own tray that is really the packaging as well. I find those are much more forgiving and not as easy to apply too much glue with. I just finished glueing (is it glueing or gluing?) up a maple top for a kitchen island and applied glue to both sides, wet to wet. But I do think any roller would be a better solution than a brush.

Good luck.

Re: Workbench update: tomorrow begins the glue up!

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>How are you safeguarding the cylinders so as to not glue them into the slab and making them big asssembly "dowels"? This could be a potential problem. I would not leave them in the glue up once the clamping is done. I would remove the cylinders as soon as the alignment is secure because I can't see a way to be 100% sure they will come out later:-)JR

Re: Workbench update: tomorrow begins the glue up! *LINK*

Denny

>I really like soft rubber rollers for applying glue. They're easy to clean up and they don't apply too much glue. I use a 4" wide roller, it's inexpensive and it lasts forever. Here's an example...


http://www.dickblick.com/zz401/04/

Good luck...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond,CA

>Get all your ducks in a row before starting. Ya might want to go to the bathroom too;^)

I'd wax the dowles so they come out easy and so gule wont stick to them.

Let us see the finished top please!

Re: Workbench update: tomorrow begins the glue up!

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Thanks guys, I'll have to see if I can find something like that rubber roller. Plans kind of changed, unfortunately, so I didn't actually start glueing today, but hopefully first of the week.

Thanks again,

David

Re: Workbench update: tomorrow begins the glue up!

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>I hear you Joe, those dowels sticking is certianly on my mind - I've waxed them, I'm planning on waxing the inside of each hole before glue up, then I'll probably put some vaseline on the dowels before I actualy use them.

Thanks,

David

Re: Good luck...

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Good ideas Scott - I can see myself needing a trip to the bathroom just as soon as I lay that glue out... :o) I'll certianly post some pics, as soon as I have them.

Thanks,

David

I found a similar roller at Home Depot

Bruce, a MN Galoot

>in the wallpaper dept. It was called a wallpaper roller (how original!) or something like that. Just a few bucks, and works really well.

Bruce

Be a chicken, don't do it all at once.

GolfSteve in Calgary

>David, I know it's now "tomorrow", but I see that you've postponed your glue up, so I'll offer my advice...

I just went through this, and certainly can't advise that you do the glue up in one shot. I know I'm slow, but I can't imagine spreading glue on 20 2x6's, getting your clamps in place, and aligning everything before the glue on the first 17 2x6's has already set unless you are using two hour epoxy.

You should also have some cauls and clamps at the ready to keep the top and bottom of the boards aligned. I see that you're using two sawhorses to hold the assembly. Make sure than these saw horses are pefectly aligned, so that they do not introduce twist into the glue-up.

Good luck. If it were me, I would glue up three boards first. Then I would square and and true those three boards to give a stiff, straight reference. Then I would glue several more boards at a time to the assembly, until the entire glue up was finished. It takes several days, but it works and the amount of clean up you have to do (if you're careful) is very minimal.

Re: Be a chicken, don't do it all at once.

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Thanks Steve - Don't worry, I'm chicken! I guess I didn't make myself clear enough, and I'm sorry for the confusion, but I've never intended to glue up the whole thing at once. I'll start with two or three boards at a time and see how that goes. And Adam mentioned the progressive planing, or maybe it was Dean, but that's a good idea, and I think I'll use it.

Thanks!

David

Re: Be a chicken, don't do it all at once. *Pics

GolfSteve in Calgary

>ps. I used an ink roller (hard rubber) - similar to a wall paper rubber - to spread the glue. Worked well.

pps. I used plain old white glue because I heard it has longer open time than Titebond II.

Here's a picture of my first glue up section. I glued two boards at a time, and I wet both surfaces with glue. Sometimes I ended up with lots of squeeze out. I tried to apply just the "right" amount of glue, but on two boards I think I skimped a little bit because there was almost no squeeze out.

As you can tell, the Lee-Valley Bessey special had just ended :-) Good strong clamps are very useful. Most of my clamps are light weight F-clamps, and the addition of some pipe clamps and the Besseys was good.

I glued up three sections (always using the first section as a reference surface), then glued up the three sections:

Then the dogholes strip was routed and glued up, and here's where I am today. I need to cut 2 inches off the length, square up one end, and route grooves for the end-cap splines today.

Re: Be a chicken, don't do it all at once. *Pics

GolfSteve in Calgary

>Oops, third picture was wrong:

Looks good Steve...

Steve Kubien

>...but I am most jealous of all the space! Must me nice.

Steve Kubien

Ajax, Ontario

Re: Thanks for the pics Steve!

David Hammond, in Powder Springs Georgia

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