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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Well alan you've taken the first steps towards realizing what a scrbber can do. I'd now HIGHLY encourage you to break out some green and buy a proper one tho. you NEVER know the true pleasures of a scrub until you do IMO. I have both Vintage and an LN. Other than comfort the LN is really no better than the Vintage ones. A scrub is a scrub is a scrub. The LN has a big beefy handle and I find to be much for comfortable and easier on my hands and wrist. A bit pricy, but I still feel it's worth it.

I don't think you'd want to be flatting larger and harder boards with your modified #4 either.

Todd O.

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JimG

>Think of it as good exercise....Anyway, consider the ECE wooden scrub, if you get one. I really like mine for taking off lots of wood.

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Alan Tolchinsky

>Thanks Todd, Would you be referring to the Stanley 40? Any other suggestions. I'm leaning toward the Veritas scrubber. Thanks.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(

>Yes Alan, I have a LN, a Stanley #40, a Keen Cutter, and one that I was told by the seller was made by a blacksmith, tho when I showed it to Todd H. he didn't think so, so I'm not sure just what it is, but I do know that it is not a modified bench plane, but a dedicated scrubber. I like this one because it is narrower than all the others which sometimes comes in handy.

The Veritias has had good reviews and I'm sure that it will do you just fine, but I wouldn't trade my LN for two of them.

Todd O.

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Dale Stansbery

>I'd see if you can find a friend with a scrub and try it before you buy. I modified a Dunlap #3 much as you did the 4, a couple of years ago. More recently I bought a Stanley 40 1/2. I haven't used the 40 1/2 as much as the Dunlap, but the Dunlap is still my preferred scrubber. It has more mass, and and the 40 1/2 seems too bob and jar more than the heavier 3 on the initial cuts on rough sawn lumber (circular mill, rougher than band sawn). A #4 though may be a little too wide and too heavy.

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Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>It's possible that you're holding things too tightly and working too tense. This is normal for the learning stages, but as you progress, you discover that you can work with more relaxed muscles and still work effectively. It's kind of like the difference between pushing the baseball bat through its arc and swinging the bat; or getting up on those bicycle wheels vs. riding a bicycle. Hard to describe, but when it happens you know you've got the sense of it.

Also, I want to reiterate what others have said: when you're flattening, work cross-grain, even at close to 90 degrees to the grain, until you approach flatness. This sounds crazy, but works marvelously, and is generally less effort than working with the grain.

I own a No. 40, picked up at a garage sale. I love it for major stock removal.

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alan womack

>I'm leaving for Cosman's Training the Hand Class tomorrow morning in Calgary, will let you know if there any other tips, but I have not bought the video yet.

I've tried using a No5 set rough with the frog pulled way back. Tough work, then I bought my Steve Knight smoother when he had a 1/2 price sale to pay for anniversary presents or something like that. The chips FLY out of that one.

Since this week coming I will be at the workshop, I hope to try a friends 40 Stanley, the LN that Rob will bring and any others that people will swap with my Knight for a little while to check out the others.

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Patrick Gibbons, Houston

>I recently bought the Veritas and have used it about 3 or 4 hours time on an outdoor project. I'm building a fort for my boys in the backyard out of cedar logs and posts (juniperis virginiana). I had need to flatten a 6" x 8' post and used the scrub extensively. (No I did not have an axe). Out of the box, all I did to the scrub was hone the blade on a Washita stone. The plane looked too good to be a scrub. It performed wonderfully fast. I've never used any other scrub so I can't give a comparison, but I don't see how any other scrub could be considerably better. I got it as a Father's Day present and it's the one with a carbon blade, not A2. It was on sale for $79. Not much more than an old Stanley and almost half the price of a LN.

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jim reed @ Tallahassee

>a LN and a Stanley #40 with one of my custom blades. Both work great, but I prefer the LN because the tote is highly polished and feels great. Once you use a real scrub plane with a REAL scrub blade, you will understand the folly of trying to convert a bench plane.

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>After reading Jim's post, below, I feel obliged to point out something you missed in your LV vs. Stanley price comparison. The old Stanleys often have led a rough life, and the wood used in the tote and knob is not always of the most impact resistant species, and is often in very rough condition. So, if contemplating the Stanley, one should consider the cost of a potential handle replacement. It's not always necessary, but, if you need them, as I did, it can easily put your cost well above the Lee Valley.

Which leads my mind to wander, as oft it will, onto a related subject. Now that Thomal Lie-Nielsen has cultivated and developed a source for hophornbeam, I wonder if he could be persuaded to offer it as an option on his scrubs? I see no reason to believe his scrub planes will not follow where the Stanleys have gone before. Extremely durable handles would be an advantage in those environments.