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Hand Cut Tenons
Richard A. Gillespie, Jr.
>I just made a saw vise and decided to use hand cut tenons on it. To rip the tenon faces I used my Adria Back Saw I bought for dovetail work. The tenons were in Ash and 7/8" to 1" deep. The ripping became very tedious with that 14 tpi back saw.
Has anyone used a 20" panel saw for that purpose? I have two of them with 10 tpi and could re-file one to a rip saw.
no help but ...
Clay C in Miami
>I don't know any reason that wouldn't work, but actually I wrote to say - nice lookin' saw vise!
Any reason you have it clamped to the bench instead of in the shoulder vise there? It looks like that crosspiece would fit ...
Clay
Yeah, sort of
mike recchione
>My "tenon saw" for big stuff is a 24" carpenter's saw, 5 TPI, filed rip.
Re: no help but ...
Richard A. Gillespie, Jr.
>Thanks for the compliment but in reply to your question on why I hadn't clamped it in the bench vise because I hadn't thought of it. Thanks for the suggestion. I got trapped into the paradigm of clamping it the way I designed it to be clamped.
Re: Yeah, sort of
John Vancil in Silverdale, Wa
>Richard filing your dullest crosscut backsaw would work. If I were you I would start with jointing the teeth than two strokes per gullet from the same side of the saw until having completed one pass. Go easy because your file will probably try to catch until you complete the first pass. Continue filing until sharp than remove the burrs with a fine stone than make some test cuts in some scrap to see if you have enough set in your teeth. good luck John!
Re: Yeah, sort of
Richard A. Gillespie, Jr.
>John;
Are you suggesting that I re-file a back saw to a rip configuration with a courser tpi then the one I used? If so, what tpi did you have in mind?
Re: Hand Cut Tenons
mike hamilton
>I made a similar saw vice based on something from Alf's website. I also have begun the base for a Bob Key type bench. Both times I had no problem using a 5 1/2 point D-8 rip saw for the cheeks. It was a bit rough but some chisel work and the Sargent equivalent to a 71 1/2 smoothed things right out.
Regards,
Mike Hamilton
Plainfield, IN
Yup
Andrew F in Australia
>I've done it for carpentry grade checkouts - finish is not to the same level as a 14tpi saw, but it is quicker.
Providing that the saw's not kinked, it does cut straight.
(ps: last time I did this was about a fortnight ago, I cut a set of 4 sawhorses in scrap 3x2 - of the 8 legs, seven were accurate enough to use on the spot, only minor gaps exist, one needed a bit of paring work)
Cheers,
Andrew
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Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida
>FWIW, YMMV, etc., but when I had the same problem, Back In The Day, I had Tom Law re-tooth a Diston back saw to 11 tpi rip. Much better.