Was: Hijack sort of -Pictures Dean ?

Re: Was: Hijack sort of -Pictures Dean ?

Dean J in MN

>This one stinks, you can't see the planing stop in the front left corner... But for now, it is all I have... But you can see the holdfasts and my favorite little battens.. :)

-Dean

Roubo & Boardjack

Jeff Schmidt (KY)

>Dean,

I think that the board jack is a great improvement over the standard Roubo and gives all of the advantages of the Nicholson apron without the big disadvantage of the Nicholson, that being the inability to use clamps on the top

Does your board jack sit in a groove in the lower stretcher or does the stretcher have a spline on top with mating groove in the bottom of the board jack?

I also noticed the upper front stretcher? Did you think that the top would not provide enough rigidity?

Re: Roubo & Boardjack

Dean J in MN

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Does your board jack sit in a groove in the lower stretcher or does the stretcher have a spline on top with mating groove in the bottom of the board jack?

Groove on underside of bench and groove in bottom stretcher... I think spline as you descibe would avoid any shaving clog issues (which I have not had). The reason I did it the way I did, to be honest, was because it was easier to plough a groove in the stretcher and cut a tounge on the board jack.

I also noticed the upper front stretcher? Did you think that the top would not provide enough rigidity?

I probably over engineered the base. :)

-Dean

Re: Was: Hijack sort of -Pictures Dean ?

Paul M. in San Diego

>Now why did I suddenly think I was in a plane coming in for a landing on an aircraft carrier? That's a looooonnnggggg bench!

Re: Was: Hijack sort of -Pictures Dean ?

Brad in Ottawa

>Dean,

I think you have the bases covered, I would really like to see the battens and holdfasts setup for use!

I'm really glad you have come forward with this bench. I am working on the Benchenstein right now.

2x4 frame, nails and an MDF top.

The most expensive thing on it is my LV Twin Screw vise. I presently have it set up as a tail vise and have always thought about remounting in in the front position on a new bench or the current one.

Brad

A few questions

Adam Cherubini, NJ

>I'd like to see a picture of the crochet and planing stop from the top looking straight down and a detail view of the planing stop. Is it height adjustable?

We talked about the position of the crochet with respect to the leg holdfast holes. How did that work out and can you show us a picture of that?

I know this looks like a simple bench, but these little details are really quite complicated. I'm sure many here would like to see your thoughtful solutions.

Adam

Re: Was: Hijack sort of -Pictures Dean ?

Dean J in MN

>The next series of photos will be "in use" so you will see the holdfasts/battens in action.

-Dean

Re: A few questions

Dean J in MN

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I'd like to see a picture of the crochet and planing stop from the top looking straight down and a detail view of the planing stop. Is it height adjustable?

Ok, I added that to the list of photos. As for the planing stop, it is height adjustable -- It is just a 3/4" dowel in a hole.

We talked about the position of the crochet with respect to the leg holdfast holes. How did that work out and can you show us a picture of that?



Added to photo list as well.

The crochet "wedge point" ended up to the left of the centerline of the leg. (I'm at a loss for a better term than 'wedge point', the point which the board wedges itself against the crochet)

This positioning produced the first lesson the bench taught me -- "You must pressure the tail of your plane when you are edge planing." If you don't the board tips forward. Of course I know that, but if I get sloppy the bench reminds me. If I used a holdfast to clamp the board to the leg I would lose that feedback. I just rest the board on the pegs (or a scrap board on the pegs if the board is skinny).

So I think it is the correct placement. I had to default to using what I could see in Moxon and the Roubo photos.

I've only completed one project on the bench, so in many ways a lot of the answers we are looking for are still awaiting discovery. I will share as I learn.

-Dean

Twin screw vise question

Luke Herzberg

>Is the vise face supported entirely by the screws, cantilevered from the nuts sunk into the bench top? It appears there are no other guides/supports in the LV sales pictures. Is this a problem when the vise is open far?

Thanks,

Luke

Re: Twin screw vise question

Dean J in MN

>Luke --

The vise nuts are buried in the top, the centerline of the screws is about 2" below the top of the bench.

I does sag a bit when it is really far open, but I can't see when I would ever use a vise that is open that far. For most uses it isn't open very far, and with the screws so close to the top of the bench racking is, as far as I can tell, a non issue. (Racking around the horizontal axis that is).

The nice thing about having pegs below the vise on the leg is you don't have to crank the vise so tight to hold your board in place.

-Dean

Re: Was: Finally!

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>I've now actually seen pictures of a bench like the one I'm working towards! Just about every single bench I've gotten pictures of, from all over the internet, have tailvises for sure, lots have shoulder-vises, and many have the record vise. I'll look forward to the pics of your bench in action Dean, it looks really great. I can't wait to actually work with my bench...

Thanks for the pics,

David

Re: Was: Hijack sort of -Pictures Dean ?

Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>Thanks for the pictures so far. I am looking forward to seeing the "in action shots". I'd love to see your setup when use a molding plane. I've been messing around with just using a plane stop without much sucess. The side pressure of using molding plane, i.e. keeping the molding plane fence against the work, is causing the problem. I suspect a holdfast with a batten would solve the problem, but I am a bit dubious about using a holdfast with the solid core door bench top I have now. I'd also like to see your setup for edge jointing. I am not completely sold on the crochet idea yet. The Nicholson style apron seems more versatile to me except for the clamping to the bench top limitation. I am completey sold on the twin screw front vise. Now the only question is Veritas or wooden screw?

Could you include the general dimensions of your bench? You know like how long the airstrip is :) I am not sure if you posted them before, but it would nice to include them in this particular thread with the pictures. Thanks again.

Wendell

Re: side pressure

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>You're right, Wendell, side pressure makes a single planing stop not so good. I built a couple of L shaped battens of different sizes for this. I've got a double row of holes in the bench, so I was able to make the battens with 3 dogs built in each. Sturdy and stable, work great.

Pam