Hanging Infills

Re: Hanging Infills

Roger Myers

>Dan, this picture is from a Guild meeting at Garrett Hack's shop, and if you look in the upper right you can see his method....

Full credit for this to Garrett!

Roger

Re: Hanging Infills

Roger Myers

>a little more detail...this is a nice neat solution, by the man that knows planes well...

Re: It scares me...

Doug Evans

>Quite Frankly though, I am quite taken with that one hanging second in from the top.

Doug

Re: just drill a hang hole

paul womack

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Why..

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Hi Doug,

Your the expert on Infill's. What is so special about the second one in from the top?

Dan Clermont

'Cause It's a Shepherd...

Doug Evans

>I met Garrett up in Ottawa at the same time I met Paul Barnard in person for the first time in 2002. Garrett worked on the plane for quite awhile and then gave me a ton of tune-up pointers, etc.

Garrett interestingly, like most of the celebrities in this business (some would argue the word), is the salt of the earth. It's like talking to a guy who was sitting on the bench next to you when you were eight years old and just about to go into the on-deck circle. He pulls no punches and I like that. He has a unique style and gives his honest opinion about things. What you see is what you get.

He helped us out with the drawknife, as well. I still have to make some of the changes he was suggesting in the spring.

Every time I get down to that area, I keep missing the opportunity to drop in. Maybe this spring.

Cheers,

Doug

As to Why It Scares Me... *LINK*

Doug Evans

>I have a traditional 19thC hanging chest over an old Christiansen (Chicago) bench in my out back porch. Its a nice black walnut piece - built as an apprentiseship project in the Bell Piano factory down in Guelph. The plane storage separators have were removed at one time and the shadows (I measured them) of a #4, #5, and #7 are still there. I bought some black walnut and intend to restore it with some old National Planes (Cnadaian Maker) at some point. I started using this chest as a basis for a new design.

When I looked at the storage methods for the infills though - it becomes scary. A #7 smoother weights about 5 pounds. A Panel about 8. A jointer - just over 11. That's a lot of weight to be cantilevering over the fastenings for a start (make sure you're going into something solid). All sections of the holders must be robust; they must be securely fastenend; and they must withstand wear and abuse.

I would much prefer the shelf approach that Chris Schwarz used in his Dec. '04 PopWW (look at the care taken with that 2nd from left cubby...). This can be demonstrated even further in Dave (Shameless) Anderson's Ultimate Plane Cabinet.

Once upon a time, it was either here on on The Pond, I talked about the possibility of reproducing The Studley Chest... heretic that I was. Since that time I have had to travel inconito and there have been several attempts on my life. I gave it up from the standpoint that it was built for a large and specific set of tools, although I wouldnt mind assembling the tools to do it. BTW, are those mortise gauges home-made?

In any event, The Studley Chest uses a "Plan View" approach to securing the planes and there was also a guy from Manitoba that made a hanging chest in the Studley style - he may have prints.

I still think though that it's a lot of $ leveraged out over the wall. I am about to start on a similar project and I think I am going to go with the shelves.

Cheers,

Doug


Nameless and Shameless

Ya just gotta...

Rob Lee

>... keep re-using that shot with the ugly T-shirt...dontcha.

:)

Cheers -

Rob

(the other two are dapper though..)

I Know its Not All About Winning...

Doug Evans

>But, Winning (read: Blue and White) in this cruel cruel world can be fashionable.

Someday the Seniletors will win but for now, that "Pac 'O Trojans" is experiencing some form of disfunction. I suppose I could make up an appropraite Ottawa shirt and sport it about to keep everyone happy... hmmm...

D

Re: As to Why It Scares Me...

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Hi Doug,

Your scaring me with that Leaf's shirt as well ;)

I hand my planes in a cabinet but it does scare me. I live in an area that is due to have an earthquake someday.

May have found a place to put the SPier's so it isn;t hanging on the wall and will give that a go first.

Thanks,

Dan Clermont

I know that is Dave on the left, which one is you?

Don Thompson - South of Miami

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Re: I know that is Dave on the left, which one is

Brad in Ottawa

>Doug's the one on the right... the one with the poor taste in fashion and Hockey Teams! (Check out the ugly blue and white shirt he wears!)

Brad

Perhaps all this could be settled on the Rideau

Doug Evans

>sometime... wagerin' say... a half drunk bottle 'o scotch (the stuff's nie on impossible to move about without gettin half drunk - the bottle that is 'o course). We could call it the Half Drunk Scotch Tournament or the Scotch Tournament 'o Pharts... hosts to provide warm beaver tails 'an the like out on the ice (someone anny-up a definition before I get thrown off here)... invite the Mainely Men 'o L-N... Course with L-V, employing half the nations capital in The Great White North, the rest of us should be given a handicap of say about 25 goals a period due to the fact that Rob's probably got about three shifts of former Ottawa 67's. Course over at Shepherd, we're kinda like the 1890's Men 'o Zorra World Champion Tug 'O War Team - all heart and jet-fuel. If we include all of our 2004 customers we should be able to start about 11 guys. I figure me an Louis Bois would be worth about 7 ordinary men though... Paul Barnard got picked up in Europe...

What could be even cooler is that one rule of the game is that you have to have made your stick with hand tools...

Hmmm...

Now what to wear...

D

Hockey Sticks and Skates

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>Maybe Shepherd Tools could come out with a dovetailed "stick" kit. Veritas could make their own version with removeable blades and various curves held in with allen screws in the side and LN can can make a stick out of Bronze.

Everybody has to sharpen their skates themselves and we'll compare sharpness sitting on the bank of the Rideau. People are allowed to use Diamond stones, water stones, arkansas stones, etc.

Dan Clermont (itching to get back on the ice)

I Like the Cut 'O Yer Jib Lad!

Doug Evans

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Water stones?

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA, the rain's here

>I thought it was bad for water stones to freeze.

There's real potential here. Rob, in the LV tradition, would reinvent the stick in some dramatic way that would be a great improvement but be criticized by some as ugly (I've grown to like the looks of his planes, and it's only been a severe lack of folding greenery that's kept me from buying several). What I can't figure out is where the pivoting knobs would fit - though they'd have to be pretty large to be usable with mittens.

We not-so-cold country folk will be looking forward to the contest.

There's more truth to that...

Rob Lee

>...than you'd imagine - I have sketched plans for a skate sharpener in the "ideas" file in my desk...we're gonna make it someday!

Cheers -

Rob

(off to the company Christmas party!)

Re: 'Cause It's a Shepherd...

Wiley Horne--Glendora CA

>Which one is the Shepherd? I see two infills in the case. The parallel-sided one on the left appears to have an adjuster (especially if you enlarge it); the coffin-sided one on the right with the yellow metal lever is, well, coffin-sided. Look like the same planes that are shown in the current FWW.

Wiley

Re: There's more truth to that...

Dave Anderson Chester,NH

>OK Rob- Ya hung that one out there knowing someone would bite. I guess it's my turn- Christmas party in January?

Dave- Guessin' that Dec is too busy for LV to have a party.

Re: There's more truth to that...

Paul Kierstead

>Can't speak for Rob, but I do know quite a few businesses have christmas parties in Nov or Jan because Dec is too busy. Considering how busy even Nov is for Lee Valley, I suspect that they choose Jan for that reason; especially since here (in Ottawa) there is a lot of manufacturing and mail-order personnel (not to mention administration) and they get going quite early in the game I would suspect.

Re: There's more truth to that...

Rob Lee

>Hi Dave -

No real troll there - just a reason I wouldn't be around to reply...

January is a great time for the company party - lets people focus on their families over the holidays...

As well, in the retail business, one gets steadily busier up to the 25th.

Booking's also much easier in the new year...

Cheers -

Rob

I thought it....

Steve Kubien

>was because you were celebrating the Metric Christmas?

Runnin' and Duckin'

Steve Kubien

Re: There's more truth to that...

Mike L

>Just as an FYI, Armenian and Greek Orthodox Christmas is January 6.

Cheers,

Mike