Ripping by hand.

Re: Hmmm.....

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I was speaking, as usual, from personal experience. I've made every mistake in the book vis a vis using Japanese saws, one of the joys of being mostly an autodidact. I even broke a couple of hand made ryoba trying to rip long pine boards, just had to hurry things along, stared with disgust as the cuts went curved, then the saws broke apart gradually as they were wedged into the cut, etc.

Pam, wondering why today feels like Friday

Ok, you convinced me.

Paul Kierstead

>OK, since pretty much no one had anything good to say about modern western style saws I am convinced. I am tempted by the Japanese ones as well and will probably try one in the future, but one thing at a time, eh.

This is all greatly sped along by a kind forum member who has offered to sell me a user rip #12 at a very friendly price and terms. Since he has actually used said saw, I am much more comfortable buying it.

Many thanks for the all of your help. I look forward to some relatively quiet and pleasurable cutting.

Re: Ok, you convinced me.

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Good Deal! I don't think you will go wrong there.JR

Re: fine toe teeth

paul womack

>This saw sounds like it's been set up (possibly by a user) to be "easy starting".

Since coarse, steep teeth are hard to start. it sounds like there's a tiny, different "starter saw" at the toe end of your rip.

Once you're into a big rip cut, I don't suppose the front 2" of the blade see a lot of action anyway.

So I'd reckon you've got 2 saws in one.

IIRC some factory saws were sold this way; anyone have a reference?

BugBear

Re: Ok, you convinced me.

Mike Real from Pittsburgh

>Whoa! I prefer the western, the length and mass of my big old Atkins makes cutting easier and momentum keeps it tracking on a straight line. I tried the japanese and feel that the lightness is a disadantage to a long cut.

Todd is hoarding all the saws!

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>Todd, we have seen those pix of piles and piles of saws from your shop move. I just checked on eBay, and you only have ONE saw for sale.

Cut some of those old good'ns loose!

Re: and After, with Saw ID ?

Paul Kierstead

>BTW, Brad, I may very well take you up on that offer. It is nice to have someone local to show you, vrs. reading it.

Selling Saws.....

Todd Hughes

>You know I don't sell to many saws nowdays, guess I should because I know they do well on the ebay, got $165 for a nice No 16 while back.God Knows I have them stacked up but a saw can be a hassel to sell, most need at least some cleaning and are rather hard to ship.Always seems like I have somthing else that is easier and quicker to sell so never get around to the pile of saws....Well I'm going have to get cracking on them...one of these days!.....Todd

Re: Ok, you convinced me.

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>There's nothing particularly light weight about a 400 mm Japanese rip.

Pam

Re: Ok, you convinced me.

Paul M. in San Diego

>I'll 2nd that. I only have the 300mm rip tatebiki, and this is a substantial beast.