Combo plane cutters

Re: Combo plane cutters

Todd Hughes

>I know lots of cutters for 45's and 55's get listed on the Ebay and imagine it wouldn't be too long a wait for ones for a 46 or 50......Todd

Jim Reed

Jack Guzman from Maine

>You might want to check with Jim Reed,a WC regular. Jim makes irons for various planes.

Jack

Agree

David Miller from Iowa

>I've bought 46 and other cutters from Jim and found them superior to original issue, Seem to hold an edge better. His email isjimreed2160@email.msn.com

Re: Combo plane cutters *LINK*

wayne

>St. James bay Tool Co. sells repro cutters.

Wayne


http://www.stjamesbaytoolco.com/

Re: Combo plane cutters

Ted Shuck, Centennial, CO

>I bought replacement cutters for a #46 from St James Bay and have been very happy with them. If you get an early model #50, without blade adjuster, the blades from a #45 will work with them. If you get a later model #50, you will either need to remove the adjuster or get original blades to fit it. The #50 blades for the adjuster have horizontal grooves near the top which engage with teeth on the adjuster. I don't know of any after-market manufacturers of these grooved blades. Some people have cut these grooves themselves, but that looks like a lot of work to me!

Ted

Re: Combo plane cutters

Michael Kieta-near Ramstein Germany

>I've read in the UK forum that Ray Isles (of Ashley Isles fame?) makes repro cutters for the Record 044 and I think the 050. Is this the same as the Stanley 50? I know the 044 cutters have grooves like you've described so they might work. Of course, I don't know how to order them from Ray Isles so we'll have to depend on BugBear or Alf.

Michael

Re: Combo plane cutters

Ted Shuck, Centennial, CO

>I've never seen a Record 050 in the flesh, but I understand from Bugbear's postings and website that the adjuster is different (superior). The Stanley 50 has a series of grooves which engage a toothed lever. The Record 050 has a slotted blade which engages a screw adjuster, similar in concept to the Stanley #45. At least that's the way it looks in pictures.

Ted

Thanks guys.

jim_reed@marietta

>for the kind words. Ye Olde Grinding shop is still open for business. #46 blades are a speciality. I just got some #39s to play with and plan to make those skew blades also.

Re: Combo plane cutters *LINK*

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Tony Murland sells these, look in the Parts/Accessories section. I think Andy Stephens does, too, at http://www.toolbazaar.co.uk/tools.asp - go to the Spares pages.

Pam


Antique Toolbox

Re: Combo plane cutters

Alan Hamilton

>Robin,

Unless my rememberer is again toying with me, and if you have more money than time, you can buy all forty of the irons for the Clifton/Clico combination plane. N.B., they are only for the most monetarily endowed.

Alan

Re: Jim Reed

Neal (San Jose)

>'Nother vote for the quality of Jim Reed's blades. Fast shipping and fair prices to boot. No affiliation, just a happy customer.

Yesbut,...

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>...do they fit the old Stanley #45 properly?

HIJACK - Making different blades for a #46

Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>I have been meaning to ask this for awhile. Have you tried or thought about making fluting or beeding cutters for a #46? I always wondered why Stanley didn't make these items. Is the geometry just be too hard to work out and machine? Also, could you tell me what the proper skew angle for a #46 blade is? I have an original blade with a badly cambered edge that I would like to fix.

Wendell

Ditto

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

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Negative rake dilemna

Sandor in Boyds, MD

>I'm guessing that they never made beading cutters for the #46 due to poor cutting geometry at the inside edge at full depth. You end up with negative rake due to the skew angle. In a #45/50 etc. you end up with a 90 degree scraping action, but with the skew, the angle is less than 90 and you won't get a good cut. This is in theory though. I'd love to test it out. Perhaps one could raise a burr on the inside edge, thus turning that portion of the profile into a scraper blade? Any mad scientist woodworker machinists out there? Here's your calling....

Sandor (who still has to make himself a set of #46 blades...)

Sliding dovetail set

jim_reed@marietta

>I am working on a sliding dovetail set for the #46--sorta like "turn your #46 into a #444". Prototypes are back from heat treating, but my testing time is very limited. I like the beader idea and will make one of those to play with. Another idea is a chamfer blade.

Proper skew angle for a #46

jim_reed@marietta

>I think it is 30 degrees, but will have to measure tonite to check.

Great idea...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Jim, Please keep us up to date on these. I for one would dig on doing sliding DT with a 46.

Re: Yesbut,...

Alan Hamilton

>Don,

No guarantees. I'm merely repeating what I've been told:

Almost all of the irons for the Stanley clan of combination planes are interchangeable (N.B., "ALMOST"!). But there are a few which obviously are not interchangeable: for example, most or all of the hollows and rounds for a #55 will not work on other Stanley combination planes. But the usual grooving, beading, fluting, and reeding irons are all the same.

Again, no guarantees. Before I plunked down the healthy price of a complete set of Clifton irons I would be sure to talk to the most mechanical minded person at the catalog company or store, AND I would make absolutely sure about the seller's return policy.

Alan

Re: Proper skew angle for a #46

jim_reed@marietta

>I placed a fat fillister on a piece of paper and the angle of the blade is 67 degrees.

Re: Sliding dovetail set

Tom Colligan, Peoria

>Jim, do you have a web site, by chance? Tia,

Website

jim_reed@marietta

>No website yet. I spend my time making blades. When the stock is sufficient, I will spend more time on marketing. In the meantime, email for my current product list.