Stephen Shephard is a thief!

Well....

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>that is certainly a strong acusation. Perhaps Sam would care to reply.

Re: Stephen Shephard is a thief!

Stephen Shepherd

>After recieving one nasty and one obscene phone call from you I have determined I will return your money as soon as possible. I did save a copy of your last raving and offensive voice mail.

I am sorry for any inconvenience.

Stephen

Moses T Reviver ?

Todd Hughes

>Boy I hate to see stuff like this just thrown out there where people can't get the entire story and know both sides of it

Anyway I am curious what Moses T Reviver is exactly and why Rarotonga needs it right away? Sounds like some elixer they sell you down at the Carny Show to Grow Hair or make your D**k bigger.......Todd

Re: Moses T Reviver ?

Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>Reviver - A wood & finish treatment

This effective wood and finish treatment dramatically revives and maintains old dried out wood and finishes including Painted Finishes. Restores the original finish. Deep penetrating, Reviver consolidates, stabilizes and conditions even severely damaged pieces. Use on worm, rot and sun damaged pieces, cracked, crazed or checked finishes. Re-laminates flaking or delaminating painted finishes. Converts oxidized painted finishes back to their original color. Not an amalgamator (does not melt the finish). Removes water rings, water marks, paint splatters, heavy wax build up and other accumulations when gently rubbed in with fine (0000) steel wool in the direction of the grain. Use after stripping to neutralize stripper and return the natural oils and moisture lost through the harsh stripping process. Eliminates mold and mildew. Cleans grease from kitchen cabinets. Removes smoke and soot damage from paneling and furniture. Removes smoke order.

Use on:

Old Finishes - Painted finishes - Wooden Statues - Grained Finishes - Carvings - Rattan & Wicker - Tortoiseshell - Lacquer - Mother of Pearl - Cane & Rush - Artifacts

Because of the wide variety of different colors of woods and finishes, Moses T's products are offered only in their natural color. If color is missing from the finish or wood it may be added simply by mixing a small amount of Artists Oil Colors (NOT ACRYLICS) with as small amount of Reviver to achieve the desired color. A White (zinc oxide), Black (black iron oxide), Brown (burnt umber), Red (sienna) and Yellow (ocher) will provide all of the necessary pigments to mix and match perfectly any missing color. Dry powdered pigments may also be used.

Heavily varnished finishes that have cracked or crazed finish requires only a light coverage with Reviver to treat just the cracks and to prevent the oils from penetrating through these cracks and discoloring the underlying wood. First test in an inconspicuous place. If this happens immediately wipe off and treat with a desiccant such as cornmeal, cornstarch or whiting to extract the oils from the wood.

Absolutely out of line!

bob marino

>One of the problems with the intenet, though to a lesser degree on a moderated forum, is that anyone can post most anything and not be called on it, or called on it only after the damage has been done. Just never thought it appropriate to make a flaming, accusatory post like this one.

Bob

Go back under your bridge...

Scott Burr Ben Lomond,CA

>Troll. This is an open forum, yes. Not a place to air presonal grevences. We've been here before...

Re: Dang, it's at least good to

Dale Stansbery

>hear from you Stephen. I always enjoyed your participation on the board.

On the contrary!

Jack Guzman from Maine

>For those who are new to Woodcentral- Stephen Shepherd is a respected long time contributor to this forum.

Grievances should be handled personally,not in a public forum.---Jack Guzman

Makes me glad...

Steve Kubien

>Well said Bob. Seeing a post from a slug like that makes me glad I never aired my grievance with someone I 'bought' a D-8 ripsaw from. Never got the saw and I am out some cash. Frustrating? You bet! But I would never put a scorching post like that on the boards, even though I've been tempted.

Where are the trolls coming from lately?

Steve Kubien

Ajax, Ontario

P.S. Stephen, it is good to see you around. I for one have always enjoyed your participation.

Kind of sad

David Miller from Iowa

>that there are people that believe that offensive remarks, misuse of public forums, unwarranted accusations, character assasination and anonymous bullying will actually prove efficacious.

I meant to write Stephen.

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>And why do you think we would pay much attention to an anonymous flame, as compared to the body of contributions that Stephen has made?

I certainly will not.

Re: Stephen Shephard is a thief!

Chad Boehlke

>This is a HELP area for those of us who need help with tools and such. Chad (Building planes on the plains)

Rarotonga

Sam Simpson

>Hi Y'all,

Let he who is innocent cast the first stone.

Step right up rarotonga!

Fair trading is a two way street. What you have just done is anything but fair. I hardly think it is necessary for Stephen to counter suit you for slander over a stupid bottle of goop. His returning of your payment will settle the matter. And his credibility in this community will withstand anything you might have the sling at him.

For my own protection from weasels such as yourself, I would ask that Stephen make us other tradesmen aware (in private of coarse) of your true identity, so that we might avoid discourteous contact with you.

Regards Sam Simpson, who is dusting off a clean page in the little black book.

Re: Stephen Shephard is a thief!

Charles

>I've been trying to reach you literally for months to place an order and you have been non-responsive to email.

If you are no longer in business would you please do us the kind favor of simply saying so?

Re: Absolutely out of line!

Charles

>THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT OUT OF LINE. I've been trying to reach Shepherd for months and almost went ahead and placed an order based on his reputation here.

This man is non-responsive to email. I've posted regarding his status on this site at least three times in the last several months.

I would strongly suggest not doing business with Stephen until he can assure us that he is actually still in business with inventory available for sale.

Taking money and not delivering the product is theft. Period.

Re: Rarotonga

Charles

>I wanted to place a several hundred dollar order with Stephen Shepherd and could not get him to respond to email. This is a plain fact and not an assault on his character.

I wanted to order the hardware kit and treadle lathe plans plus some Moses T stuff and some other odds and ends.

I emailed him profusely and never got the courtesy of a response. I posted messages on this board asking if anybody knew his status.

IS STEPHEN SHEPHERD STILL IN BUSINESS WITH INVENTORY AVAILABLE FOR SALE?

Re: Stephen Shephard is a thief!

Charles

>ARE YOU STILL IN BUSINESS? MAY I PLACE AN ORDER?

Re: Stephen Shephard is a thief!

Charles

>I came so dam* near close to just sending the order and the money it is absolutely frightening. And I did this based on the fact that Stephen is a long-time participant here. However, that would have been a mistake as there seems to be no correlation between one's contributions on a woodworking forum and one's ability to run a business.

I'm pissed and I didn't even lose a dime. I have no doubt whatsoever that Raratonga, who ever he is, sent the money. Apparently Stephen is still set up to receive PayPal payments.

Re: Stephen Shephard is a thief!

Charles

>I'm with you. There is no reason your order shouldn't have shipped in four weeks.

You had every right to leave as nasty a phone message as you cared to leave.

See my posts below.

Re: Absolutely out of line!

bob marino

>If he is not responsive to calls or emails, he's making a terrible and damaging mistake, business wise. No excuse for that, no doubt about it.

Calling him a theif in a public forum is another matter.

Bob

Think you are right Todd

Ernie Miller Topeka

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Re: Moses T Reviver ?

Charles

>So waiting a month is reasonable?

I gladly invite you to place an order with Stephen and report back to us. For that matter, email him and ask him about the availability of his products. I did, many times, and never got a response.

Re: Absolutely out of line!

Charles

>He's had the gentleman's money for a month and has not shipped the product - a $16 bottle of finish restorer. Like me, the purchaser apparently had his email messages ignored. The original poster finally blew a chip and called Shepherd.

I don't know what you call receiving money and not shipping a product (and ignoring the purchaser's attempts to make contact), but in Memphis we call it theft.

Based on my experience with Stephen Shepherd I have no doubt about the veracity of the original post. Now Shepherd wants to blow it off by saying the guy left ugly phone messages. Big freaking deal. All Shepherd had to do was ship the product or return the man's money. Period.

You folks need a reality check.

Re: Stephen Shephard is a thief!

Charles

>I urge you, in the strongest way, to file the police report you mentioned, file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, and with PayPal.

Stephen Shepherd epitomizes the term Fly By Night.