Est. 1998 — 27 years of woodworking knowledge
Why so cheap... *LINK*
Doug
>I know that #4's are everywhere, but this old gal looks to be in pretty good shape. Especially since it's a type 11. As long as the guy doesn't hit me for twenty bucks shipping, I think I did ok. Did Stanley start using high knobs near the end of type 11's or is that a replacement? Thanks.
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Re: Why so cheap...
Dan Moening, rainy, smokey Sacramento
>Cause I'm too cheap, and way over my budget already for the month...
oh, and thanks alot ;-)
Dan.
Because it doesn't...
Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA
>Have a low knob IMHO.
Re: Why so cheap...
William R. Duffield on the Cohansey
>According to Walter, there was a Major Change between Type 11 and Type 12, including the high knob. From the photos, it is obvious that either the knob or the tote is not original, since the color, lustre, dings, and everything else about the surface quality of the knob are markedly different than the tote. The preponderence of evidence would indicate that the knob is a replacement. Maybe the original got broken? Maybe one of its owners likedthe feel of high knobs better? So?!? At that gloatable price, if you want a low knob, just go out and find an old one, or get a new reproduction to replace it.
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Victor Parisian - Houston
>And I thought I had driven the price up on all these...You did good. Enjoy the gloat. Ain't it grand.
Victor waiting for the Astros to start...
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WoodburnBob
>Perhaps the lost japanning in the front and the appearance of a nearly used up blade kept the price down. As the others say, maybe the high knob contributed. Still, to me, it looks like a good rosewood knob and I find the high knob better in use than the low knob --- even though I agree the low knob looks better...aesthetically. You got a good solid deal...if you now invest time, energy and ingenuity in tuning it up.
Some people think the Walter Guide and Bailey types are more of an approximate classification than a rigid pedigree. I'm with them. I imagine there were lots of assembly stations at the Stanley factory and I'd guess the tote and knob containers were emptied and filled without synchrony. Maybe you have the last 11 body attached to first 12 knob. Maybe the fellow who put your plane together emptied his knob container faster than anyone else. Maybe to amuse himself in such a boring job, he spent part of his time throwing knobs at pidgeons in the rafters.
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William R. Duffield on the Cohansey
>The only reason I discounted and therefore did not mention your "theory" in this particular case is because of the clear differences in the conditions of the tote and knob. Those two spent many, many years far, far apart from each other.
Stanley would never have made a conscious decision, "Today we stop making type 11s and start making type 12s". There would have been no reason for them to do so. When somebody on the assembly line got a basket full of parts that were different than the last basketfull, he just started using them, as long as they fit whatever was coming down the line.
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Patrick Gibbons, mcgdogm, TX
>Don't disregard the fact the auction ended at 4:00 PM CDST on a Thursday. In my experience, auctions that end on an "off" day during work hours go for less. This of course is a generalization.
Dunno
David Miller from Iowa
>I don't really track the common planes, but there seems to be a lot of variation - and I agree with Todd H that a lot of it is in the marketing. Even with shipping and the vagaries of the type studies, still seems like a bargain to me.
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paul womack
>If we're being picky, the top of the blade shows some hammer marks (who *DOES* that?) and the tote tip has clearly taken a hit, and been filed/rasped to get rid of splinters.
But it looks like a cheap, high quality user to me, although my ergonomic preferance is for large adjusters.
BugBear