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Ellis Walentine

Need input... video ideas

Ellis Walentine

>If you visited our main messageboard a week or so ago, you may recall yet another eye-watering survey on connection speeds. Well, the results are in, and I have concluded that enough of you have fast connections that it makes sense to start a program of streaming (or downloadable) video technique articles.

I have arranged for production and hosting of the new video program, and am gearing up to record a couple trial balloons in coming weeks.

I would like to hear some feedback from you as I develop my list of target topics and demonstrators. Each video will run a couple minutes and, with any luck, will amply demonstrate the technique at hand. We'll see.

Any thoughts? I don't mind Neanderthal topics, either.

Thanks,

Ellis Walentine, Host

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John Meikrantz

>Ellis,

I would love to see some videos on sharpening and grinding techniques. There has been so much good input from many different folks on tool sharpening. It would be nice to see some of these systmes in action, i.e. Bob Smalser, Bill Tindall, etc.

I think that a lot of the Smalser "tutorials" would make great video.

John

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JL work

>Sharpening is good - particularily turning tool sharpening techniques.

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Louis Bois

>great idea...what about carving tool sharpening? Especially those little micro buggers?!?

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How about...

David Miller from Iowa

>A handplane primer to evangelize all those heathen electron killers on the other side?

"This is a jack plane, this is what it is for and this is how it works" repeat with smoother, jointer, shoulder, scrub, block, rabbet, and scraper. Bet you could get someone here to write the script.....

Also could do a different one on a combination plane, or handsaws, or

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Rick Hoppe (Los Angeles)

>When I think of a woodworking video, as opposed to a book or article, my first thought is:

Can this topic be just as effectively communicated in the form of text?

What topic can best be explained by video rather than by text and illustrations?

This is especially true of hand tool topics where so much is dependent on skill and �body english�.

I�d love to see how a highly skilled craftsman does everyday shop tasks like:

Using a bench plane (or any other plane for that matter)

Using bench chisels- paring and chopping technique (ex: hand cut dovetails)

Chopping a mortise with a mortise chisel

Using a handsaw (ex: hand cut tenon and ripping a board with a large handsaw)

Adjusting and using an infill smoother.

Sharpening a molding plane blade

This is such a great idea, Ellis. I can�t wait!

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pretty exciting!

Clay Craig

>I'd like to see

filing/honing scrapers, and setting the 'plane-body' type scrapers

any of the smalser tutorials would make a good video (though I take the point that viseo is best reserved for things that are hard to convey with still photos)

I think we are awaiting a new planing study from Lyn M (unless I missed it - horrors), a video of his methodology for the studies would be fun.

I'll be looking forward to these!

Clay

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For ideas look at...

Bob Hackett

>The Trow&Holden stoneworking site.They have excellent streaming videos of proper handtool technique for working stone.

Nothing beats seeing it done correctly.

Mainely,Bob

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I totally agree

Roy from Cincy

>Seeing is so much better than reading, especially for hand tool techniques. The first time I saw an expert cut hand cut dovetails, it all came clear. Reading just didn't get it.

I vote for chopping mortises, since that is next in line for my skill set development.

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Great idea, Ellis. It seems that you are trying to make this a home grown effort, which is laudable; but how about the plethora of professionally produced videos out there, typically for $20-$30 each. Lot of good knowledge available today.

Have you given any thought to licensing some of those videos (including dvds) and in turn allowing people here to see them in whole or part for a fee?

And in turn, how about charging fees for viewing any videos, and passing on a percentage of the fees to the makers? This has got to be a big drain on your bandwidth. It's certainly a big job to create even a few minutes of video.

Pam

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Mike MacDonald

>I'd like to see Adam's push method with mortice chisels.

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contrary view, tentative

bill tindall

>It at first strikes me as unrealistic that a two minute video will be effective. But I am open to being convinced that my first thought is wrong. There is a lot of fluff and blather in the 45 min video productions.

While I don't have a connection where I could make use of this feature, if I was motivated to see something I could visit a high speed friend.

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Mike in Mystic

>Glad to see this idea coming into reality - thanks Ellis!

I would like to see:

- veneering

- inlaying

- chip carving

- hand-chopped mortising (popular one it seems)

- bowl turning (or any hollow vessel techniques)

Looks like you've got about a year or more of ideas already.

Mike

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Ellis Walentine

Absolutely

Ellis Walentine

>All I'm doing is lining up the shoots with experts I know and actually doing the taping, which can be done adequately with a small digital camera. Production and hosting on a streaming server will be done by a fellow who I'm partnering up with for this, so I won't have to take a bandwidth hit. I will also have longer versions of my shop visits that I can edit lightly and save on DVD for sale.

Money is going to be an issue, though. Advertising will cover some expenses but not nearly all, so DVD sales may turn out to be an important revenue stream in the long run. Production values probably won't be much to write home about, but if the quality of the information is good, it'll be worth something.

We'll see. In the immortal words of this British guy I heard on an AM radio talk show about 25 years ago...

"If you get to it, and can't do it, there you jolly well are, aren't you."

I've never forgotten that.

Ellis

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Ellis Walentine

It's a continuum, Bill

Ellis Walentine

>When I was a magazine editor, I had to deal with page constraints -- how many pages could we afford to devote to which topics? Articles were edited accordingly. It all has to do with the ambition of the piece, whether it be an article or a video snip.

For example, if you want to show someone how to use a foreplane to edge-joint a board, the information you need to convey includes such things as how do you hold the plane, how do you clamp the board, how high is it in relation to your elbow, how do you stand, how hard and fast do you push the plane, and how thick a shaving is coming out of the plane, how do you start the cut and how do you end it, and how do you check progress. These things are very difficult to convey with words, and they are the things that people need to know in order to learn the technique efficiently. I could show you that in a ten second video, and you could replay it on your computer as often as you like until you get the gist of it. And it's free.

The bonus is that CD and/or DVD versions could also be made available, for a fee, and those would have no constraints on length or filesize.

We'll see. Video is uncharted territory for me but editorial is not.

Ellis

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Ellis Walentine

It will be interesting

Ellis Walentine

>I have no idea how many of these things I will be able to produce over what length of time. I do know that if travel is involved, I need a more ambitious plan to pay for it.

We'll see. I sure appreciate all the support and good ideas I'm getting from you all.

Ellis

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Cool. And then there are the videos from dead masters like Kingshott that I'd love to see online, particularly because they're no longer available for sale.

Pam

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Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>I second the idea of a video of Adam's mortice technique. I just can't get a good picture of the technique in my mind from the words. Maybe you can get him to wear his funny hat too :)

Wendell

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Ellis Walentine

Adam, what do you say?

Ellis Walentine

>Would you like to showcase your technique?

Ellis

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Terry in Ottawa

>Sounds good.

Here's a link to some video clips on wood turning that I saved. I assume this is the kind of thing that you're talking about it. Or at least a starting point.

http://www.turningtools.co.uk/videos/videos.html

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joel

>All of Jim Kingshott's videos are still available and in print.

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Thanks, Joel.

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

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Making a traditional tailvise

fmutchler@adelphia.net

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Adam's Mortising Method

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

>I think that a video illustration of Adam's Mortising Method would be a good choice. It is not on any commercial videos that I am aware of, and has generated a lot of questions about the technique in the past.

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Already suggested, I see!

Don Thompson - Cutler Ridge, Florida

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