Shepherd Tools Kits

Same response--$300 and I gotta build it???

Gypsydave in alabama

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Re: Shepherd Tools Kits

Richard Gillespie

>Louis, welcome to woodcentral. I went to your post on the infill planes and enjoyed it. I've considered buying on of the kits but have other things on the list with a higher priority.

I do want to ask one question however. When you say you were filing the dovetails were you preparing them for fitting into the sole plate?

Re: Shepherd Tools Kits

Louis Bois

>Hi Richard,

The filing I mention basically consists of removing a small amount of metal from the inside corners of the pins to create a small "pocket". This area will be filled in during the peining process and helps locks the parts together as a result.

Have a look at this website for a better explanation.

http://www.xmission.com/~jry/ww/tools/schueller/schueller-practice-dovetails-v2.html

Cheers,

Louis

Re: Same response--$300 and I gotta build it???

Ben Knebel

>Keep in mind though that finished versions of the plane will run 600.00 and that finished infills regularly sell for over 1000.00 to 2000.00 for smoothers---more for some of the other makers out there---so for about half of the finished price you get a high performance plane and all you add is a little time. (8-12 hours depending on individual skill levels)

Regards

Ben

www.shepherdtool.com

Re: Shepherd Tools Kits

Jerry Schueller

>Yes, and as the writer of that how to dovetail article, I am writing up in great detail, how I built these two mitre planes. one bedded and 20 deg, the other bedded at 12.5 deg with adjustable mouth.

How to get it to you, is another question. It is half done and 35 MB. Took 200 pics while making them. Both built from scratch with scrounged up materials. Will let you all know when it is done.]Jerry Schueller

Re: Shepherd Tools Kits

L. Hanson - N. Idaho

>Hey Jerry!

I am anxiously awaiting your tutorial -

On the size, you might consider lowering the quality of your pictures. They can be quite a bit smaller, with less resolution and still get the point across - for example, I took the photo you posted in this last post, and resized it to 72 dpi, then ran it through a compressor in Photoshop (Save For Web...) which got it down to about 14k - A significant drop from the 243k of the original.

I put it on my web site to post it here so you can see the difference. The quality is less, and it's a bit smaller - but still passable, esp. for the web.

There are other programs that can do it, too (maybe others here can help out on which programs also work)- but if you have photoshop it works great...

Re: Shepherd Tools Kits

paul womack

> It is half done and 35 MB. Took 200 pics

It is normally possible to get a good, detailed and informative photograph (for screen viewing) into around 50K.

Which would give 200 x 50K = 10 Mb.

This (I will admit) requires careful cropping, subsampling and compression, which requires considerable effort and time.

My entire website (I'll admit I'm an extreme case) is 1.5 Mb in total.

BugBear

worth every penny

Sam Simpson

>Hi Y'all,

Let's say that you are interested in acquiring a few good quality woodworking tools, and, though you kinda know how to use them and what kinda tools you will need, you're not fully up on what to buy and how to tune it and care for it after you own it.

A short and concise education about all of these things can be had by simply buying a plane kit and making it up. Even if you screw it up your education was worth the entry fee.

Now if you take the time to sojourn into the depths of Canada and meat up with the trepidatious kit makers all the better. While you are there you might drop a hint to Ben that your education in the fine art of whisky appreciation is also sorely lacking. Wherein you're world of knowledge will be broadened yet again.

The many planes that I have owned and used for years are much more content now that they share rack space with a coupla beautifully hand crafted Shepherd shoulders.

Regards Sam Simpson.

Re: Shepherd Tools Kits

Jack Guzman from Maine

>"My entire website (I'll admit I'm an extreme case) is 1.5 Mb in total."

..and people like me with slow dial-up speed thank you for the effort.(I only frequent this one forum,it takes so long to load each message I would be on the computer all day just trying to keep up)---Jack

Face it Jack

Bob Hackett

>We`re `neanders,even when it comes to our electronics.

Sure would be nice if we had an option that was in line with our income though.

Mainely,Bob

Re: worth every penny

Ben Knebel

>Thank you for your kind words Sam.

Regards

Ben

Question for Louis

Patrick Gibbons, mcgdogm, TX

>What files did you use? Where did you get them (I'm having trouble finding a good selection of metal working files) and what can I use in place of an anvil when it comes time to peen?

Re: Question for Louis

Louis Bois

>The basic file kit required consists of:

- 8" flat mill bastard file...they're about 3/4" wide...for filing the pins/tails.

-> You'll want to make at least one of the sides safe by grinding away the tooth pattern on the edge(s) so you don't accidentally file the bottom of the pin/tail recesses when filing the pins/tails.

- 6" half round bastard file (about 5/8" wide) to clear out the dovetail corners

- a flat file (about 1/8" thick) to file the throat at 45 degrees...about 3/4" wide

- and a large bastard file (12" long or so) for rough flattening all outside surfaces, sides and sole.

These files can all be found at most box stores in the Nicholson brand...at least at my local HD and LV carries at least a few of them.

As for a peining surface other than an anvil, you could use a 12"x12"x1/2" steel plate (as recommended in the Shepherd Tool instructions) ...probably obtainable from a local scrap yard.

Hope this answers all your questions Patrick.

Re: Question for Louis

Cameron Miller

>As far as piening goes......

Pretty much most of the dovetailed planes I've made have been done on a block of 3"x3"x5" steel. I also occasionally use a smaller block at 2" wide by 1-1/2" thick by 6" long and sometimes the backplate of my 1/2" thick steel welded bench vice. It doesn't matter if the plane is 1" long or 36" long I still use the 3x3 block most of the time.

Anvils are great and I've got nothing against them, but I prefer something a little more portable.

You dont always need files... sometimes floats...

Doug Evans

>Not all of our kits have to be metalwork kits.

Cheers,

Doug

You dont always need files... sometimes floats...

Doug Evans

>Not all of our kits have to be metalwork kits.

Cheers,

Doug