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Question on plane type......

Randy Johnson Connersville, IN

>and prehaps a small stealth gloat.

Friday I stepped into a small junk/antique shop to get out of the rain for a few minutes while reading gas meters. I've been in the shop before and never saw anything worth leaving with at any price. This time there was a #4C Stanley with three patent dates cast into the bed. I gave the guy his $7 dollar asking price and left with a good feeling.

Now, with my limited knowledge I was under the impression that the three patent dates denote a type 11. Looking at the flow chart on the BP archive I see that it could be a type 12 if the adjusting knob is a certain size. However there is a third variation that the flow chart does not address. My plane has no frog adjusting screw which should date it prior to a type 11. So, what do I have? Is it a type 10? Or does it fall into a crack where it is really no "type" but simply a plane put together from leftovers to get it out of the factory.

BTW, it cleaned up very well with no pitting and about 95% jappaning intact.

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Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>This does pose quite a canundrum. What you may indeed have is a casting with three patent dates which does not conform to a type 11. Check the link below. I have taken a close-up picture of - on the left: A type 9 or 10 with no frog adjustment screw. The plane on the right is a later type 11 with a high front knob and frog adjustment screw. As you can see the castings on the frog and body on the type 11 are different (with the adjuster) from the earlier type without. What are the three patent dates on your plane? This could not be a cobbled plane and you might indeed have a unique find. Very gloatable indeed at $7.


Close Up View

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Sorry, here'the link *LINK*

Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>Got fumble fingers, here's the link


Stanley Types

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William R. Duffield on the Cohansey

>Acording to Walter, both Type 11 and Type 12 planes have three patent dates cast into the sole. All other differences are to parts that can be removed. The quickest way to tell the difference is that Type 11 has a low knob, while Type 12 has a high knob. Type 12 planes also have a larger brass depth adjustment nut, a minor design change to the frog and a change to the lever cap. Within Type 12, Walter also shows four different trademark designs stamped on the iron. Three of these have the "sweetheart" logo.

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The mystery is solved......

Randy Johnson Connersville, IN

>along with a little egg on my face for breakfast.

What I have is a type 9.

Somehow, in the course of scrubbing down into the corners with 409 and a toothbrush I didn't notice that the first line was not a date, but rather PAT'D. Sorry for the trouble I put you guys through trying to solve a non-problem. It ain't the first time I've made a fool of myself, and barring unexpected death it probably won't be the last.

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Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>Welcome to the club. Stick around, pull up a rocker, and enjoy that type 9. This just happens to be my favorite Stanley type and will make a nice user. And $7...beep...beep! I like finding planes covered in greasy grime, for this reason....the japannig always seems to be pretty much all there when cleaned. Try cleaning with WD-40, the grime should wipe right off.

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