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Block plane dating and Hock iron???

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Block plane dating and Hock iron???

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Block plane dating and Hock iron???

Doug

>I just got a great Stanley 18 and was wondering if anyone knows if there is a type study for Stanley block planes? I know they stopped making them in 1950 according to B&G. This one has the number etched in the outside cheek, Made in USA on blade and casting, a C cast in the body and on back of blade, and steel adjusters as opposed to brass. Thanks for the help as always.

PS...How much difference does an aftermarket iron make in these old blocks? If I get a hock, I'll have more in the iron than the plane! Thanks

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Re: Block plane dating and Hock iron???

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Doug

I have a Hock blade in a #65. The difference between this and the original Stanley blade is, to put it mildly, quite substantial. It is not just that you can get a better edge, but also that the Hock steel will hold it longer. I now need one for my #18 as well.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Todd Hughes

>The block planes had thier numbers put on the side starting after WWII.....as to a new blade I'd just use the original one and see how well it serves you befor spending lots of $ for somthing you might not need.Seems the originals were good enough for a few million past users.....Todd

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Re: Block plane dating and Hock iron???

David Miller from Iowa

>The steel adjusters suggest WWII production, they were brass before and after the war. I'll split the difference between Derek and Todd. If you need a new cutter, I would definitely get the Hock. If there is nothing wrong with your current cutter, the differences may not justify the swap out. The Hock is better though IMHO.

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Re: 1/16" thick?

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>Dan Clermont wrote:

"Old Stanley blades are 1/16" thick? Most of my planes came from a Luthier who had some nice old Bailey's and Bedrocks he sold to me and they all had blades around the 0.085" compared to 0.065 (1/16") and that is why I am skeptical to upgrade my blades to Hock cause they really aren;t that much thicker".

Dan

I am really no expert here, but I recall that there have been several similar threads in the past. In summary, Stanley blades appeared to vary in thickness over the years. Mostly, however, they are around 1/16" thick.

My hesitation to date in buying a Hock blade for my #18 has more to do with the demands I put on the plane than my doubt about the blade. As I mentioned above, I have a Hock blade in a #65. This block plane, along with a LN #102 (low angle), are the ones I have turned to for end grain work. The #18 only gets used for long grain, and this is much less demanding (e.g. I get much less chatter with the Hock blade than the Stanley blade on end grain). The standard Stanley blade has been OK - not great, just OK on long grain. It gets the work done, but even so it needs frequent sharpenings to stay on top of its game. So I'm going to bite the bullet and get a Hock blade for this one as well. At least I will only have to do it once, and it is not a particularly expensive upgrade to improve a classic vintage plane. Incidentally, as far as I know, only Hock make a blade for the #18/65 block plane.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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