>Most people who have a bad experience simply stop buying from the vendor. It takes a lot of energy to complain, and is usually done by loyal customers who really like the vendor and want to see the vendor do better. As many of us here feel about LV, LN, etc. God knows why McDonald's would attract such customers, but they do.
So who's more stupid? Those people who continued buying coffee or McDonalds? I say McDonalds because they had a lot more to lose. There must have been at least 10 or 30 times more customers who didn't report the offensive coffee; and they probably are very vocal to their friends. That's a lot of customers to offend and/or damage. I bet the story would have been different if McDonalds didn't have so many lawyers on retainer.
>Well the proper thing for the owner to do would be to call the FAA and issue a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) that the airport was closed. Additionally he would need to mark the runway as closed by displaying X's at each end of the runway. I can't say if this was done or not. (When mayor Dailey of Chicago destroyed Meigs he didn't. The control tower operators showed up for work and found dozers as I understand it.) It was his property, but when people start getting into a wizzing contest they can do stupid things.
I know of a couple people that have closed really nice private grass strips because they were afraid of unauthorized people hurting themselves and suing the them. From my prospective instead of fighting with the owner, the pilot would have been smart to say okay if you move your van I�ll take my airplane somewhere else. After it was safe then see what could be done. Like everything in life there are risks. I�ve been in those �There I was� positions I�ve decided it wasn�t worth it and turned around or not gone. Meetings can be postponed, equipment can be replaced. I�m not going to give up my life or even my certificate for something so trivial in the big picture.
There old pilot and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots!
>to make you stop and think or do the right thing then there`s not much hope for you anyway,IMO.
What ever happened to doing somthing just because you knew it was right?I guess it went out the window along with taking responsiblity for your own actions.
We used to think for ourselves and care for those around us even if we didn`t know them.I don`t see many lawyers helping to bring that back or looking for ways to simplify our lives.What I see is much the same as what that contractor was chasing,$$$$,both by the attorney and the client.That being said,there are exceptions.It`s just that it`s troubling to me that the good guys are the exceptions instead of the rule.
I know it may seem contrary to what I said in the original post but something a friend once said to me keeps coming to mind,"The only justice you`ll ever see is the justice you make for yourself".
My friend was what some would call an"institutional man",he was also very caring,straight forward,and loyal.He died in prison.He put himself there the last time around,his inablity to hire the right lawyer made him a felon.The combination of both our child welfare system and legal system was what put him in a "gladiator school"(youth facility)to begin with.I still think it was a horrible waste of humanity.
As Todd O. would say,I`ll get down off my soapbox now.
Mainely,Bob-Who knows afew lawyers socially,and tries to stay away from all lawyers professionally.Nothing personal,just the way I was brought up.
>Wait, show me where it states that McD's encourages people to eat, drink and drive. At some point, the public needs to be accountable for its own actions, no matter how mindless they may be. Must we have someone tell us that our coffee may be hot or not to operate our toasters while in the bath?
Man, I could really fly off the deep-end on this but ease with which I would offend some people is staggering.
>When someone comes jumping, stamping, and shouting into your office, you have a choice of how you will respond. You can choose to respond with respect, listen to the person's complaint until you comprehend the problem, and then form a plan of action to fix the problem. Choice number two is to ignore the problem, tell the person they are a fool for even thinking it is a problem, treat them like crap and send them on their way. McDonalds chose the latter, and it ended up costing them $485,000.
I have often thought there must be more to this case than what is commonly talked about; whenever there is a story in the news, there is someone behind it grinding their axe; I always take this into consideration when watching the news. I imagine knowing all the facts of the case I would have agreed with this jury.
>To me it is a sad thing in a culture when older people are no longer respected or felt to be useful. I have no idea how old you are Bob, but it just struck a sore nerve when you said you felt people would not want to hear your opinion. I think this may appear to be true, but is not necessarily true. Often times young people wish to appear to be strong and self sufficient and so will laugh at your opinion and appear to be able to do without it, but really do take it into consideration when making the final decision. The important thing is if you make a point which turns out to be true later on, they will remember, and perhaps return to you for advice later on. Sometimes older people are far behind the times and their input doesn't apply to the situation because of this, but I think they should still be treated with respect. I hope that I can feel useful to society throughout my life if I live to be a hundred and twenty years old.
>You certainly share a lot of knowledge on this forum, and have helped out probably thousands of people with that knowledge, with no apparent reward for yourself that I can see. Pehaps you do this because it gains you a good reputation and helps your tools sell for more on ebay? Or maybe your heart is not quite as hard as your post above might appear to make it ;)
Imagine a culture where everyone only looks out for themselves, and perhaps for their children. Laws would have no use, as the rationalization would be if you don't get caught it's okay; you are looking out for yourself, and no-one else. It would be okay to lie, cheat, steal, kill, and do anything to anyone, if it was in your own best interest or if it brought pleasure to you. Is this the road our culture is headed towards? I think their is evidence to prove it in a court of law.
I'm not going to be a doom and gloom preacher, but I think we have to take into consideration how the next generation will respond and react to our morals to develope their own morals; I am not just looking out for myself, but for the billions of people that have to live on this earth long after I am gone.
>For much of my teenage years my grandmother raised me.I learned from her and her friends that the older generations are the storehouse of knowledge and experience.
Later,when I was out on my own,I knew how to approach older people and respectfully ask them to share thier knowledge.Many times that meant enduring things to prove my commitment to my trade by putting up with things like being rapped on the knuckles with a pair of pliers when I did something wrong(I was told that the reason I WOULD put up with it was because if I didn`t,the instruction would end)not everyone who is older acted like my grandparents.
One of the reasons I prefer Maine to other places is that reverence toward older folks still holds true up here.For years while my father was sick the neighbor would shovel snow from the walk and drive so my mother wouldn`t have to.I still have to get up early to beat Dwight to the snow shovel,and my father has been gone almost 10 years.
To answer your question Moses,I`m 51.Thanks to my grandmother I don`t consider that old(all though apparently the AARP does).Also thanks to her,I feel truth and knowledge are where you find it,regardless of age.Sometimes you have to dig alittle,sweat alittle,listen alittle harder,and endure more than you might like but most times it`s an investment you`ll be glad you made and can carry with you to share with others.
Mainely,Bob-Who always enjoys reading the thoughtful posts that Moses writes.They make me realize that there`s folks who think alike everywhere regardless of geography.Thanks Moses.
>Well i don't know how much knowledge i have shared here but if I have it is because someone has asked about something and I do think this is a large basket of different then going next door to some new neighbors and start telling them how to deal with some contractor and getting in the middle of the mess.
I think to there is a difference between helping sombody that needs help with somthing and getting involved in sombodys bussiness.If I see a neighbor [or anybody else] with a flat tire along the road I'll stop to help.I'm not going over to the neighbors driveway to check the tread on thier tires though. Have to say I don't see the conection of sombodys minding thier own bussiness and people that "Lie, Cheat ,Steal and Kill".I think the main reason that people who might be tempted to do these things don't do these things is because they are afraid of being caught and not so much they are looking out for other people.If they were that type of person they wouldn't be tempted to these actions
If sombody asks me for my help I will do what ever it takes to help them esp. if they are a disadvantaged person but to get involved in a "stranger" bussiness on my own? Don't think so....[well I Hope I wouldn't at least].....Todd
