Bedrock, japanning, and tote

Re: Bedrock, japanning, and tote *LINK*

David Miller from Iowa

>It's not that one with the nose broken off I hope:)

Patrick Leach's Blood and Gore has lots of pictures of planes - basically, everything one the "inside" of the plane is japanned, the rims, outside and bottoms are not.

With regard to the tote, there are two sizes for bench planes, the smaller ones were held only by the long through bolt, and the larger ones had an additional bolt through the front of the tote base. You need the latter so if your tote doesn't have the hole you need a different one.

Good luck, David


Blood and Gore

Re: Bedrock, japanning, and tote

Steve M.

>Thanks David. You have some good advice. I didn't realize that totes came in two sizes.

The replacement tote (from Woodcraft) I have has a hole on the underside near the front, which I assume is there so that people can drill through to the tote's top side. It's location matches a tapped hole on the plane's base. The tote seems to be sized well to fit the plane, but I'm only guessing at that.

I am familiar with Patrick Leach's site. Great site! Sometimes the amount of info makes my head spin. However, the site surprisingly has few photos of Bedrock planes, and no photos where you can see the innerds of Bedrocks. (There are line drawings from Stanley, but few photos.) I was curious to know if the japanning was very different due to the frog and machining differences between Baileys and Bedrocks. I'll use the guidelines you listed as well as pictures of Bailey-style planes to determine where the Japanning is to go.

Thanks.

Steve

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Re: Bedrock, japanning, and tote

Steve M.

>Oh yes, your comment saying "It's not that one with the nose broken off I hope:)" made me break out with laughter.

Steve

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Re: Bedrock, japanning, and tote

Todd Hughes

>The totes for 3 and 4 size planes have a small dimple on the bottom front that sounds like the tote you have.This dimple is to engage a small "Tit" that is on the casting and keeps the tote from moving.Befor drilling yours out I would make sure yours isn't a tote for a smaller size plane.I would go with an original tote instead of buying an after market one, originals are easy to find and even on ebay don't sell for much more then $15-$20 or so.

On a bedrock the front of the frog where the blade rest is left bright as is where the frog and the body meets....Todd

Bedrock innards *LINK*

David Miller from Iowa

>Here's some Bedrock innards, but they don't help you with the japan question.

They are all japanned except the bed mating surface on the bottom, and the high places where the blade touches on the top.


Bedrock Type Study

Re: Bedrock, japanning, and tote

David Miller from Iowa

>I've used those Woodcraft ones before and it seemed to work, at least the one I had was big enough so when I drilled a hole it worked. Also, the little front bolt is an odd thread so hopefully you still have the original. Let us know if you don't, you won't find it at the hardware store.

Re: Bedrock, japanning, and tote

Steve M.

>I looked at the Woodcraft tote again last night. There are actually two holes toward the front of it. One seems to be in the location of where the bump is on the #3 and #4 (I need to verify this a little more), while the other is in the location that matches the threaded hole on the 605. I susptect that, when used with a #3 or #4, the user is expected to cut off the extra material towards the front of the tote.

Fortunately, I do have the little bolt that goes into that hole. There is also a washer with the bolt. Is the washer supposed to be there, or was that added on by the person who made the custom tote?

Steve

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Re: Bedrock, japanning, and tote

David Miller from Iowa

>Originals did not use the washer. David