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Wheeler,Madden & Clemson saw

Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>Just looking closer at a saw I found last week that is in really bad shape but had a "Harvey W. Peace" stamp on it. The medallion on the handle is stamped "Wheeler, Madden & Clemson" and I was able to find quite a bit of info on them on-line. I was unable to find many pics of their saws though, and so have some questions on this saw. I will probably post a pic when I get some time tommorow. I would also be interested in your recommendations on a saw book, as I find them sort of intriguing and there are still not too many people really getting into saws, though there is one guy in the area that will get the saws he wants if he is at the auction, no matter what the price.

The medallion on this saw is stamped "Wheeler, Madden & Clemson" with "XLCR" stamped in the center of it. The blade also is stamped "Harvey W. Peace" in a semicircular stamp in the center of the saw, and also stamped "Vulcan". This appears to be an old saw as it has a sunken medallion and split nuts with the name stamped into the saw instead of etched, although it may have etchings also, and had a nib on it that is broken off. The handle is just plain jane though, no fancy cutting like some of the saws I saw in pics from this company. I'm wondering about any info you may have on this, whether Harvey Peace worked with Wheeler, Madden & Clemson at one time or if they just used the name for this saw, and approximate date of manufacture if you happen to know.

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Bob Nelson

>Moses: Wheeler, Madden & Clemson and Harvey Peace were completely separate saw makers working in the late 1800s. I imagine you have a Peace saw that somebody put replaced the medallion on with a W, M & C one. Bob

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Good saw, and a couple books

Christopher Schwarz

>Moses,

I have a Wheeler, Madden & Clemson backsaw and it is just fantastic. Perfect hang, balance, handle, everything. No Pearce stamp on it, however.

A couple good books that will help guide you:

"Hand-Saw Makers of North America" by Erwin L. Schaffer, which is available through vintagesaws.com and mjdtools.com. (And elsewhere, perhaps). This is an excellent checklist of saw makers, where they worked, when they worked and who was "branding" for whom. Also it has lots of historical advertisements and the like.

"Keeping the Cutting Edge: Setting and Sharpening Hand and Power Saws" by Harold H. "Dynamite" Payson. Available through the Wooden Boat magazine store. This is the most complete and well-illustrated guide to sharpening handsaws that I've found.

Good luck with your saw. After my experience with that brand, I'm on the lookout for more by that maker.

Chris

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Joshua Clark

>Moses,

Chris and Bob already chimed in with some good information on Harvey Peace and WM&C. I can only add that on the few stamped Peace saws I've seen there is usually a model number stamped under the semi-circular "Harvey Peace" logo. The stamped logos usually look like this:



Harvey Peace (circular stamp)

#xx (model)

Brooklyn, NY



There is usually a "Vulcan" stamped off to the side as well. I've seen model numbers 35, 40, and 45 tat had stamped, not etched, logos. If you can send a picture I may be able to tell you what model it is.

Other than that, as Chris and Bob said, I don't know if any link between WM&C and Peace. Both were making saws around the same time, but almost 100 miles from each other. My guess is that it's a replacement handle.

Take care,

-Josh-

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