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Why do you use hand tools?

Bill Tindall, E. TN

>In a post below a new woodworker, Jane, asked what plane to buy and a lengthy discussion followed that in some cases didn't consider why she might want a hand plane. I know that my feet were in my moccasins, not her's, when I responded. Some respondants suggested a multipurpose plane while another stated that one could not make more than a bookcase with only one plane. It became clear that there is a great diversity of hand tool objectives on this forum, and that can result in communication problems. One can make all sorts of things without any plane. I suspect that the great majority of woodworkers never use a hand plane, for a variety or reasons, but mostly for lack of knowledge of how and when to use one. This Forum could be a great help to these people, but it must be considered that they may have a different woodworking perspective.

Not long ago during a trip to Krenov's school I watched students fitting things using hand planes- simple inexpensive affairs that they had made. It became abundantly clear that in the hands of a knowledgable user, a plane was the best way to do some furniture building tasks. It became my goal to determine what tasks in furniture building were best suited to hand tools and learn the skills to use these tools. This Forum has been a great source of help as well as a great source of confusion. I suspect Jane may have been as confused as helped.

This Forum has made me reailze that there are people that mostly collect planes. Others use planes because they like the process of planning things or emulating historical ways of doing things. Still others plane things that their thickness planner and belt sander can't handle. The latter can't imagine why anyone would waste the time flattening something with a hand plane when a planner could do it in a minute, while the former can't imagine how anyone could derive any satisfaction flattening something with a machine.

It seems to me that the most knowledgable hand tool people on the Forum greatly enjoy the process of using(and/or colecting) hand tools. (Meyers- Briggs "P" personalities) They seem willing to spend more time, making fewer things, for the pleasure derived from using their hand tools.

There is another woodworking perspective-persons that have an endless list of things they want to make, the best way that they can make them. "Best" is a compromise of quality, speed, and cost. The pleasure (or payment if selling things) comes from accomplishing the task.

As we drift over here from the power side, and elsewhere, we look to the experts for advise on hand tools and techniques to insert into the equation of time, quality and cost. And we hope we are welcome even though we intend to keep our thickness planner and router. When communicating keep in mind that woodworking objectives may be greatly different.

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Greg Sloop

>Thanks Bill.

I just posted something along these lines. I'm not in the "collector" or purist vein. I want finished "stuff." But I want to make it. Find me the best cost/performance ratio to do so and I'm happy.

But I'll shut up now becasue I don't want to dominate anyone elses thread or "pollute" it.

Great topic though!

Greg

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Agree

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>We joke about the slippery slope as if there's just one destination for someone who begins to use hand tools, when in fact someone may remain mainly a power tool user who just needs to know how to use hand tools for those things that power tools can't accomplish.

In past conversations here and on Badger Pond, it's become clear that most of this community use both power and hand tools, though there are folk passionate about exploring what hand tools alone are capable of and how best to use them.

My own self, I use hand tools:

1. for those tasks that power tools simply cannot accomplish efficiently (joint fitting, excavating small or oddly-shaped openings, etc. etc. etc.)

2. for those tasks for which I don't own a power tool, even though it would get the job done more efficiently, such as the recent shaping of the rails on my porch project

3. for those tasks that, even if I do have a power tool, the limited size of my shop prohibits their use - my table saw is limited to ripping pieces about three feet long, because anything longer hits the wall before the cut is done

4. because I enjoy entering into that intimate dance with the wood and its personality made possible only by a sharp edge powered by muscles

5. because they're less dusty and noisy

6. because it's fun sometimes to exert myself and see the effect on the wood of my effort

These are not, by the way, rank-ordered; they're all about equally true. I think that the first three are true of many, maybe even all, AC/no C tool users, while the last three are a sign of someone hooked on hand tools.

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Best solution for a 1-circuit shop

Joe Hurst

>Disregarding the simple joy of rediscovering the versatility of a tool that was earning it's keep years before I, or my dad (or sometimes, his dad) was born, I've found a few practical advantages to going tailess:

1.Peace and quiet. Earphones make my head sweat. Work doesn't seem so bad when you've got Miles Davis playing in the background. (My neighbors appreciate this even more than I do.)

2.Speed. Power tools do a few things really well, and can do even more, provided you're jigged up. But for removing small amounts, nothing's quicker than a quick plane pass. I'd give away my PC belt sander before surrendering my $5 cabinet scraper.

3.Safety. Granted, chisels have cost me more bandaids, but tablesaws don't take prisoners. Without a doubt, handtools are safer when dealing with smaller pieces of wood.

4.Saving power. Working in a garage with one 20-amp circuit, I've tripped a breaker in mid-rip and have been trapped in a pitch-black garage. Not fun.

5.Better finish. I came at woodworking through carpentry. My powertools are good, but not great. Judicious use of handtools removes minor burns and sawmarks, which allows me more time with the wood, and less time spent uber-tuning tools that may get tossed into my car next weekend.

-Joe

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>1. I hope to learn and master a few handtool skills to pass on.

2. It helps control my diabetes making a sweat.

3. Less noise and dust

4. Personal satisfaction is higher for me

5. There seems to be one pile of nice people into taking their time to explain things to us who have drifted into this lane of life.

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>My dad may have known how to make a chisel really sharp, but he rarely used that knowledge and didn't pass it on to me. Try woodworking with a dull chisel and see how much fun it is. I worked in a cabinet shop for years and never used a hand tool.

I enjoy learning; I guess this is why I like using hand tools; there is an infinite amount of information to gather. I like the way a sharp chisel bites into the wood rather than bouncing off of it. I like the way my LN rabbet plane or an old low angle Millers Falls block plane with a Hock iron slices red oak end grain and gives it that perfectly smooth look with the open pores. It is the process of learning and then making a hand tool work to it's top potential; there just ain't anything else quite like it.

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Angus Barclay, in New Zealand

>I use hand tools because they:

1 - they cost me less to buy

2 - they take up little space in my tiny shop

3 - the mess & dust is easier to control

4 - the noise level is MUCH lower

5 - they are better for my health (exercise and also see 3 & 4 above)

But mostly because I simply ENJOY them more than power tools ... and it is pointless to do a hobby like woodworking unless you enjoy it.

regards

Angus Barclay

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Because I got hands!

Jorge Casta�eda ~ East Penobscot Bay

>and it is a quiet tune, more enjoyable shop time.

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William R. Duffield on the Cohansey

>You missed one important point with your statement, "Best" is a compromise of quality, speed, and cost. I think we need to include the safety and health of the woodworker in this equation. Considering these risks in the equation of the total creative output of the shop and the worker strongly moves the small shop decision towards hand tools.

A few more reasons beyond those very good ones already mentioned:

� I can do things with hand tools that even the most sophisticated CNC machine cannot manage, including, but not limited to, unique works of art. So many of the old forms have been abandoned just because the tooling and the training of the power tool woodworker in the use of that tooling, is not competent to do the work.

� Sometimes the hand tool is a lot quicker, and a lot easier to carry to the task at hand. I can often be done with a task while the guy with the power tool is still looking for an extension cord. This is true for rough work as well as fine craftsmanship. For example, when you are out in the boondocks, and some rough carpentry doesn't quite fit, it is a joy to pull a #40 out of a coat pocket and immediately knock one piece down to size.

� Working with hand tools gives me a much better feel for and understanding of the wood itself. This helps me appreciate the material's strong points and weak points, which helps me build better better furniture, making it stronger where needed, but lighter and more elegant where the additional structural strength is superfluous.

� I can more easily create things that are unique, and specially suited to their end user with a judicious application of hand tools. If I just used power tools, what I built would look a whole lot more like it were some mass produced item, or a copy of someone else's design. OTOH, we should always remind ourselves that nobody pays for, or cares much about the shape of the scrap, shavings and dust that land on your shop floor, in your wood stove, on your compost pile or in the dump, after the work is done.

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Alan Hamilton

>All of the above, plus:

I like the idea of keeping alive technology that stretches back to forgotten people and unrecorded times. I like the idea that my hands are doing the same things that all those countless other hands have done; I feel connected to the past.

Like others, I like the process itself more than the finished product. I really don't want to speed up so I get finished sooner; I'd rather spend more rather than less time doing what I enjoy.

I also take much more satisfaction from making things with hand tools for many of the same reasons as others. I already know how to put a plug in the wall and flip a switch. Working with hand tools requires practice, patience and persistence. (HELP! He's alliterating again!!)

Alan

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glh

>Aside from the fact that they aren't as dangerous (I can stop when I see blood.), they aren't as loud, and they don't create as big a mess with all the dust, I like the pace of hand tools and really get more enjoyment out of using them than I do power tools. Using a well-tuned hand plane is by far my favorite ww "process". I've also grown to actually enjoy sharpening now that I've had some success. I'm sure I would feel differently about this if I made my living this way and the time factor was more significant.

I am still well stocked with power tools, at least for what I do as a hobby, the size of my budget, and the size of my garage/shop. I am on the verge of selling my 6" jointer and 13" portable planner, however. That will free up some needed space. I have a few projects for this summer and I don't want to end up regretting getting rid of them too early.

Bottom line is that I get more enjoyment out of ww when I use hand tools. I would still enjoy it, but not as much. One thing I haven't done by using hand tools is save money. I have several expensive hand tools. I like them and wouldn't sell though, but I didn't save money.

One final note. Hand tools, planes especially, can do things hardly any power tool (at least that I own) can do when it comes to taking thin shavings (like .002 or .003) for precise joinery. And, often they are quicker and easier to use than setting up a machine.

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Brad in Ottawa

>I have always enjoyed hand tools...

I grew up on a farm and my earliest memories are of me with hand tools. If my father saw me playing with a handsaw, hammer, screwdriver or a brace he was happy it wasn't with something more dangerous! (Just as long as I wasn't drilling holes in his equipment or the barn.)

Now that I am older the infatuation continues. It essentially comes down to challenge of learning skills, execution and of course I can listen to music or sports while I work!

Of course there is the whole collecting aspect which satisfies my desires to hunt!

Brad

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Richard Gillespie

>Everything previously posted plus I inherited a bunch of antique planes, saws, braces and bits plus many more from my father, and through him my great grand father. My father didn't really know how to sharpen items so he went the power tool route.

My great grandfather was a cabinet maker until late in life when the great depression closed the furniture factory he worked in. From that time on he was a school janitor.

I inherited a bunch of tools I knew very little on how to use. I had bought a Stanley #4 That wasn't giving me very good results 20 plus years ago. Turns out it had an aluminum frog.

Along comes the INTERNET and doors to information are opened. I started to learn how to sharpen things. Things worked better even if they had a aluminum frog. Knowing how to use a tool creates curiosity on how to use another. Talk about a slippery slope!

After working for 30+ years at job I didn't like for the last 15 year of the that, I became a cabinet maker. It was great but the wages were terrible and the dust tore me up. I quit that to do it on my own using hand tools where/whenever. Can't say I'm making a lot of money. In fact, I do better working as a handy man.

Sorry about the long rant. Somebody asked!

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Binen Eastern Ia

>I probably do 85% of my work with power tools. I use hand tools simply because they are the best solution for the task at the moment.

Binen

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Jonathan Peck -N.Y.

>Everthing mentioned above and....

1) Can't say my kids have their own set of power tools

2) Can't say that my kids sets of hand tools have any kidproof safety devices

3) Don't think that I will ever wear out any of my hand tools...or that my kids will..or that their kids will..of that their kids kids will....

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Jack Guzman from Maine

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Jack Guzman from Maine

>I use hand tools because I enjoy doing it. It's more satisfying than anything I've ever done.I've been sharpening things and whittling since I was a little kid.I became a carpenter to make a living. I only recently discovered the world of hand tools but it was the creative outlet I've always searched for. I flunked at piano lessons and can't draw a straight line but give me a piece of wood and a knife and I see miracles. I know I can excel at this so I keep on down the slope.

Also,theres so much to learn that I doubt I'll ever get tired of it.

Crackerjack

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What's your point?

Adam Cherubini, NJ

>I think I missed your point Bill. What are you saying? Your subject line seems to differ from your post. The way I read it, it sounded like you think we should consider that we all work wood with hand tools for different reasons and that we should consider that when we give advice, or answer questions.

I certainly agree with that. I'm not sure that's your point though. You always have such interesting things to say Bill. I don't want to miss this one.

Adam

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you got it, sorry

Bill Tindall, E. TN

>I hadn't realized how misleading the title might be. The point is communication and the need to consider other perspectives.

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Re: yeah!

paul womack

>When communicating keep in mind that woodworking objectives may be greatly different.

Absolutely excellent point.

BugBear

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Jack Guzman from Maine

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Jack Guzman from Maine

>I don't know about other responders to this thread,but,I understood Bill's real intent. I almost passed on until I saw how many were responding to the title. I figured I'd answer it anyhow because the question is an important one that affects me every time I enter the shop.

As to the original meaning? I agree that more thought needs to be put into some responses.I remember receiving responses to my own questions that were useless to me because the responder assumed I knew things that I didn't.

I also have been guilty of blurting out a response,thinking I'm being helpful,without thinking the question through first.

Following the pack. ---Jack

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Retitle- "Communicating Advice"

Bill Tindall, E. TN

>Not sure how I came up with that misleading title (likely lack of clear thinking) so I offer a better one.............

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Message received...

Bob Hackett

>and understood.I want you to know that you narrowly escaped yet another of my long winded rants on the esoteric nature of neanderthalism.;^)

Luckily I read the post before I responded and realized that no response was necessary.You have dodged yet another bullet Bill.

Mainely,Bob-Who will take Bill`s sage advice and try to incorporate it into future posts.

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Process Oriented

Todd Stock

>Because I'm process-oriented, and there's on heck of a lot more process with a 39-3/4 than a table saw and dado blade.

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I starting to use them.

Joe Piotrowski -Chicago burbs

>I am coming to appreciate Hand tools more.

I am more of the right tool for the job kind of guy instead of the wiz who can take a saw and chisel and build Noah's arc.

When I first started woodworking I learned watching Norm. Now don�t get me Wrong I love Norm but when I start to watch him build a tabletop and he turns around and flatten it out on 36� industrial belt sander my wallet say NO!

It has become clear to me that going at just Norms way means I have to become a part time machinist and have a fat wallet. As it is, I have to take the entire guts out of my saw so I can file out the trunion hole :(.

Also,I hate taking 6 hours to build a jig for a 1 time cut that takes 10 seconds to complete. Or tune up a tool for half and hour for one cut.

So certain operations become faster using hand tools. I won�t say cheaper, when good hand plane cost more than a router.

This gets me thinking about what I would do differently in acquiring tools if I could do it all again.

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Totally agree...

Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>"So certain operations become faster using hand tools. I won�t say cheaper, when good hand plane cost more than a router"

except for the cheaper part

A plane iron, chisel or saw blade may last several generations, router bits and saw blades are expensive, have a limited shelf life, and can't be re-sharpened easily or at all.

Hand tools don't have motors that burn out

Once tuned, a hand tool needs little more attention than use. Power tools need constant maintenance

There are more 100 year old tools out there being used than 10 year old power tools. Landfills probably contain more power tools than handtools

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