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6/7/04, 12:27 AM #1

Jack Guzman from Maine
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>Well,my tote making is completed successfully.I had a #6 with a glued and pinned tote and two #5s with broken totes,one of which I glued unsuccessfully. I seem to find alot of planes with broken totes.Especially the #5. Anyone have a clue why the 5's in particular seem to get broken more often?

Encouraging words to anyone trying this. It is alot easier than I thought it would be.If you drill the through hole for the long screw first it's just a matter of shaping the wood until it fits your hand. I drilled the front hole after the tote was completely shaped.

In the picture the first one is red oak treated with blo-turps with one coat of shellac to avoid reactions between the oak and skin fluids.The middle is cherry with just oil and the one in back is rosewood with oil and wax.

The reason for the different finishes is experimentation.This is all a learning process for me.

I have a couple pictures of the layout process if anyone is interested.

Crackerjack

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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6/7/04, 12:35 AM #2

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>Not a criticism at all...just a question 'cause I haven't got my head all the way around it yet. Isn't he cherry one's grain pretty close to 90 degrees opposite of what you would want? The more I think about it, the more I think the "horn" at top is almost destined to crack of on the wrong "knock" unless you manage to find just the right fancy grain.

Nice job, BTW. Makes me want to re-do one of my plastic Record's instead of popping for a commercial one.

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6/7/04, 1:15 AM #3

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I'd be...

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>...interested in the layout photos. Have three I'm fixin' to work on this week (he said, fingers crossed, knocking wood), and I'd be intersted in any guidelines you think worthy or not completely idiot-proof blatant. For obvious reasons.

Scott

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6/7/04, 1:34 AM #4

Andy Lincoln,in Dearborn,MI
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Me Too

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6/7/04, 1:35 AM #5

Todd O. Cronkhite Native of Maine
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Nice work Jack

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>Looks like you got this tote making thing nailed! Next you'll probably be replacing totes that aren't broken eh?

I think you're processes would be interesting to alot of folks to include my self.

Todd O.

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6/7/04, 1:51 AM #6

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>Me to I'm always interested did you hand sand them or use some kind of best sander

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6/7/04, 2:10 AM #7

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>That piece of cherry was surrounding a knot.The grain went in all different directions.What you see on the horn is a bit of sapwood that I left in for looks.---Jack

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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6/7/04, 2:13 AM #8

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>I shaved,sawed, rasped and filed. Then I scraped it and sanded with loose paper on my finger.---Jack

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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6/7/04, 2:58 AM #9

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layout picture 1

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>I started with a piece of wood slightly thicker than my tote. Laid the old tote on it to find a good grain orientation. I used a bevel to find the angle of the long screw.

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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6/7/04, 3:07 AM #10

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>I then drew a baseline on the wood,lay the bevel on it and drew the screw line.Then I drew another line 90 degrees to the screw line and another line parallel to this one.I cut these two parallel lines.The I drilled out the counterbore for the screw cap followed by a through hole for the screw using my line as a guide.

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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6/7/04, 3:12 AM #11

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>To get the depth for the counterbore I lay the tote on the baseline and marked the top of it.Using an LV marking gauge I found my depth and transferred it to the piece of wood allowing for the difference between the line I just drew and the top of the wood.

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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6/7/04, 3:19 AM #12

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Jack maybe add that to the articles section

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6/7/04, 3:25 AM #13

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layout picture 3

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>At this point I lay the tote along the screw line to make sure the baseline was correct and then drew the outline of the tote on the wood.Then I cut the baseline and the tote profile. Now I set the tote on the plane and screwed it in to test fit. Then,I removed the tote and shaved it down to rough shape.I used my #49 rasp to get it closer to shape and periodically checked it for fit in my hand.Then I used # 50 and a wood file to smooth it more.Here I started with card scrapers both flat and curved.Finally I used 100 grit sandpaper to get stuff I couldn't reach well with the scraper,180 grit to remove scratches and 220 w/d to get it smooth.

This was what I did,you may find better ways to do some of this.I may do different at another time but it worked and I'm pleased with my new totes.---Crackerjack

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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6/7/04, 3:30 AM #14

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>Almost forgot. After I got it smooth and just before finishing I set the tote in place,made sure the front base was even with the front of the raised land on the plane.Then I measured to the front hole on the plane and drilled a hole in this spot on the tote.--Finish

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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6/7/04, 1:47 PM #15

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Great work!

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>You can make some for me anytime!!! As for why #5s seem to always have broken totes, I have a few guesses. 1)Most common plane, 2)Heavy enough to crack tote if plane drops. My experience is that #6,7,8 totes are almost always missing the tip and that #5s are frequently cracked.

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6/7/04, 2:02 PM #16

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Good idea! Well done Jack!

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6/7/04, 2:07 PM #17

Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs
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Thanks, Jack! Very nicely done!!

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6/8/04, 1:44 AM #18

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>Beautiful work, Jack--that middle one is just stunning.

Now, go build some furniture.... : )

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6/8/04, 3:18 AM #19

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Thanks for the lesson, Jack

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6/8/04, 11:14 AM #20

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Thanks

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>Thanks for all the kind words. As much as success in an endeavor,encouraging words from peers is a confidence builder. And confidence is very important in woodworking.

I'm just glad I could contribute something to this forum.It has been a large source of education for me.

Yes,now to make furniture.---Jack

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I am a carpenter by trade.Also a handyman/Jack -of-all-trades.I work around my neighborhood mostly helping people keep up their old houses.I have a fairly large woodworking shop in my house where I work with both hand and power tools. At the moment I'm focusing on Windsor chairs building.I will build most anything if needed. I'm always learning,adapting,changing trying to broaden my woodworking skills.I work mostly with hand tools in my shop but will use power if it is a better way to get the desired result. My wife,Donna,and I live in the woods of Maine with our dogs,cats,and birds. We have 5 grown kids and six grandchildren. Woodcentral has been central to my growth as a woodworker. I pass through this place every day.

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