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Do I Need One?

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Do I Need One?

Alan Hamilton

>All,

I have a Stanley #92 which after comparatively little fettling and sharpening works just fine. I'm sure another, better quality maker's plane would work better, but I can't see how it could be so much better to justify replacing my Stanley.

However, David Charlesworth, amongst others, reccomends having a big shoulder plane as well as one about like a #92. Clifton and Lie-Nielsen both sprin to mind because both make one and both planes have a very good reputation. But the question is:

Do I (or anyone) "need" a big shoulder plane, such as a Lie-Nielsen #073, if I already have a quite capable Stanley #92? And if so, why?

Also, I'd like very much to hear from those who have had a chance to use both.

TIA,

Alan

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>I personally don't think so. But it's a little faster than switching planes and more accurate than a small shoulder plane when fitting tennons. I head LV is coming out with one in the fall 1 1/4" wide.

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glh

>I've been in the same boat for about a year. I've spent quite a bit of time tuning my 92 and it works about as well as possible, but lacks the heft I would like to have. I've heard the same thing Jim has about Veritas coming out with a larger shoulder plane. I'll probably buy it, but not sure. It's hard to justify.

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I don't think so

Paul M in San Diego

>I got both the 92 and 93 in a good deal at a used tool meet. The 92 was rather ugly, and the dealer threw it in with the 93 as a package at a good price.

I cleaned up the 92 and use it frequently. The 93 only sees occasional use. I just find the smaller size more useful. I've also got the LN small shoulder just because it's sooooo purty. It's not very useful as it is so small.

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mfitterling

>Absolutely, this is a must buy. Anyone saying you don't need a new plane or two are just plain wrong, and mean-spirited. Goodness! I'm surprised at you guys.

:)

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Stephen in Ottawa

>Hi Alan,

The question about whether *you* need a LN 073 can really only be answered by you. You seem satisfied with your Stanley 92. Why are you considering the LN? Are there some areas in which you see the #92 lacking?

By itself, the LN is a fine plane and, in my opinion, it's heft is an advantage even on small tenons. I cannot compare it to the #92 since I've never tried the latter.

- Stephen

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dave caudill

>It took me a while to purchase a larger shoulder plane but in the end I'm quite happy with it. Its like pounding a 16 penny nail with a tack hammer. It works but its not th emost efficient way of getting things done. Of course once you get the framing hammer and realize it takes only a couple swings you realize you are not going to go back to the tack hammer. I think you would find the same with a larger shoulder plane. It makes the job at hand easier. The heft of the plane really is important when doing shoulder work.

Can you live without it. You already are. Would it make doing large tenons and shoulder work easier and more enjoyable. Probably. But as someone else said ony you can decide. I bought mine form Bob Brode a few years ago and its an old english model. Nothing special or fancy but very comfortable and functional.

good luck with your decision.

Dave

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Well...of course...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>You guys are SICK! Yes you NEED it, you need as many shoulder planes as you can get your grubby little hands on;).

My answer is yes. It's mass alone in trimming work is great. Also on wide shoulders it excells (this comes in very handy when making you bench base and any up and comming timber framing projects and skinning large killer rabbets with huge teeth ;(=)

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john coil

>It's probably my favorite plane to use. As others have stated, the mass and weight make it easier and faster. It fits my hand well, doesn't chatter or skip on tough cross grain, etc. The smaller standly workd well, it's just not as much fun to use.

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Charles

>Speaking for the relatively few of us here who don't get off on owning fifteen versions of everything I'll say that you don't need another shoulder plane.

I would recommend becoming an expert user of the one you have and leave it at that. Save your money to buy project materials, or a tool you don't have but NEED.

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Alan Hamilton

>Thanks guys,

I was trying to talk myself into one--and I've never before tried to talk myself into buying a tool I didn't really need.

So thanks again. I'll keep using my Stanley--a tool that's never yet let me down. You all saved me money.

Alan

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