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Making totes:keeper or prototype

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Jack Guzman from Maine

Making totes:keeper or prototype

Jack Guzman from Maine

>I recently picked up yet another stanley #5 with a broken tote.The plane was encased in thick rust.I found it lying on the ground at a year round outdoor flea market.It only cost $5 and it cleaned up nicely.There was no pitting remarkably.I haven't dated it but it has 3 patents. The sole is perfect.

Anyhow,I'm sick of glueing these things so I figured it was time to try and make one.I only have a small bit of rosewood so I decided to make an oak prototype in case I messed up.I have lots of red oak.

I solved the hardest problem first. I got the angle of the long bolt to the sole with a bevel,marked it on the wood,them made a 90 deg.line off the bolt line and cut that line.Using that line as reference I cut a parallel line.I took this block with a vertical line drawn on it(bolt line)and drilled a counterbore and then through drilled for the bolt.Then I cut my sole line. I laid the broken tote pieces on this line and drew the outline.Then it was just a matter of cutting away everything except for the tote.I used a bandsaw,paring chisel,circular and low angle spokeshaves,float,patternmakers rasps,wood file and finally card scrapers and sandpaper to get it smooth.

With the tote bolted down I marked the front hole and then removed it and drilled it.The only problem I have with the prototype is that it's perfect.I'm thinking of just using it as a tote.I treated it with blo-turpentine and it's drying. The picture is from before the oil.

Are there any downsides to a red oak tote? I never saw one before,but it looks great.I'm going to make a few more using both rosewood and cherry .I'm always needing totes it seems.

Next thing is a saw handle,my apple is almost dry enough.

have fun---Crackerjack


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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Keeper! (Even if it never gets mounted to a plane permanently.)Nice shape. Bet it's real comfortable.JR

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Jim DeLaney, Tustin, CA

>It's a keeper.

I've made totes from maple, cherry, walnut, oak, and ash, all with good results. The open-poredness of the oak may result in its picking up some dirt and grime from your hands, unless you seal and fill the pores. I prefer not to do that, though, and just finish mine with a bit of oil.

Jim D.


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Looks Great, Jack!

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>I am sure that it will give you extra pleasure when you look at the plane to which you mount it.

I have always thought that if I get around to making my own tote, one of the added benefits would be that I could match it to my hand dimensions. Did you put any time into doing that, or did you choose to match it to the original?

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definite keeper

John Truxell-Svenson (jvs)

>Looks great--better than my first by miles. Maybe wet sand with oil to fill the grain a little, depending on how dense the pores/growth rings are, but other than that, time to start turning knobs!




/jvs

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Jack Guzman from Maine

Re: Looks Great, Jack!

Jack Guzman from Maine

>I got the outline off another tote but just shaped it til all the sharp edges were gone.It's a little fatter than the original.---Jack

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Jack Guzman from Maine

Wet sand

Jack Guzman from Maine

>Are you talking about sanding with w/d paper using BLO as lube?---Jack

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Re: keeper

Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>Jack, that tote looks great from the road. Haven't made any in oak either, but that one looks pretty good. I really like making them in cherry, it's such a nice wood to work with, and I just can't bring myself to spend the money for cocobolo or rosewood for a common user plane.

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Re: Three Patent Dates...

William Duffield on the Cohansey

>...means it's a Type 11, which was built from 1910 through 1918.

If the tote feels good in YOUR hand, then you made right. When you are using it, if you feel any uncomfortable spots, just smooth them out, a little at a time, until it feels right.

Type 11's were the last models that came with the low knob, but, again, you have to decide what works best for you.

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Re: Wet sand

John Truxell-Svenson (jvs)

>Yup--only indicated if you wanted to close the pores. Red oak varies a lot (kind of like "wood"); that looks like it came from a nice chunk.




/jvs

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Jack Guzman from Maine

rosewood

Jack Guzman from Maine

>The yard I buy my hardwood from sold me a piece of 5/4 rosewood 5" by 60" for the price of walnut because he wasn't sure what it was. It's a real nice piece.I used a little for a bowsaw I built last year and the rest I've been saving for special projects.I just started another tote today with it.---Jack

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Dave Anderson Chester,NH

>Really well done Jack. My only problem with using something like red oak is that even with a BLO finish it would leave my hands black. The oils and salts in my hands react with the tannin in most woods and I end up with blue-black . It doesn't matter If you use several coats or have hands which don't react as easily, but it's something to consider.

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Hikack! Re: Wet sand - technique link

Paul Kierstead

>Ok, a little hijack. You say 6-7 steps for tightly grained woods. Considering that red oak has crevasse-sized open pores, how many steps would it likely take? Surely, there must be a better way. Or are commercial "fillers" really the only option in this case?

I like oak, and it is very economical around here, but have yet to succeed in getting a very smooth feel without a heavy plasticky looking film on it. A few coats of tung looks awesome, but doesn't feel silky in the hand at all.

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Jack Guzman from Maine

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Jack Guzman from Maine

>Dave,

That's the first time I've heard of that. I get a chemical reaction from aluminum when using a ladder to apply vinyl siding(the only time it matters).My hands turn black from contact with the ladder and it gets all over the siding.Have to wear gloves in summer.

If I get a problem with that on the tote I'll just lay on some shellac.---Jack

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