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Saw Till Critique

Bob Hutchins in Central TX

>Howdy Fellow 'Nanders!

If I've done this right, you will be able to see a graphic of a saw till I've designed to fit inside my tool cabinet. The overall dimensions are 32"x18". The boards are 3/4" x 2-1/2". The kerfs aren't quite right yet. I spaced them ~1-3/16" on center but don't know if this is enough or too much. Multiple kerfed rails allow for saws of different lengths. The heel of each saw will rest on the second rail from the bottom. The space between the bottom of that rail and the top of the bottom rail is 4-1/4". The dowels on the sides will fit into holes so that the till can pivot up to allow access to storage behind the till which will be slanted from back (top) to front (bottom).

Comments, criticism and suggestions are equally welcome. Never made a saw till before.

TIA

BobH


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Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>The shape implies that the till will be vertical when at rest (not being tilted up to get to something behind it). If that's so, I'm not quite clear what will keep saws from falling out every time you open the door. It seems like the center of gravity of each saw will be in front of the till and above the resting point for the heel.

If it will tilt at rest, that's a different matter, but it still seems then like you'd need a pretty decent tilt to avoid the saws-clattering-to-the-floor syndrome.

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Bob Hutchins in Central TX

>Thanks for the response, Bill.

The till will be attached at the top rear of the cabinet which is about 17 inches deep. The bottom will rest on a shelf at the front of the cabinet. Imagine a line from the top of the till vertically to the shelf as the altitude of a right triangle with a base of ~16-17" and the hypotenuse being ~32". Will that work, or should I reverse the plan and put the handles at the top? 'Course I could angle the rail that the saw heels will rest on some too.

Thanks again for the input.

BobH

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Ron Smith

>Hello Bob,

I am not certain of your design, or what particular storage/use problems you might face. I would observe that may be undesrable to have the saw teeth facing out (snags, bumps etc) . . . and if facing in you will have constant abrasion of the retaining wood frame. When I did my saw storage I used a one-foot wide section of my wall mounted Tool Chest which is one foot deep with 6 inch deep doors. I put a wood devider and a row of "L' shaped brass curtain hangers screwed into the top board to hang the saws. The saws are hung by the already drilled hole in the saw, teeth facing away. Enough of the saw is visable to allow selection and it is overall a very neat and space saving system.

Good luck with your project and please show us the finished till.

Ron

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Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>So your cabinet's about 27-28 inches high, which means, if I recall my street trig right, that the saws will be at 60 degrees or better. I would think that would be enough, but you might knock together a mockup, tilt it at the angle you'd be achieving, and slap a saw in it - see what happens.

Here in shakyland, no way would I trust my saws to a till like that (I should talk! My saws hang from nails in the ceiling joists and will all fall on me in any earthquake over about 4.5...but if I were building a permanent till), but unless your local palmetto bugs (is that what they're called in Texas, or is that only further East?) have a thing about saws or you live next to the Interstate, you'll probably be OK if they seem stable in your mockup.

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Ed Mulligan, Cape Cod

>Bob -

Since the till will pivot I'd like to see a more positive way to secure each of the saws in the till so they don't flop around when the till is moved. Maybe blade-deep kerfs on the kerfed rails would work. Definitely do a mock-up as another poster suggested.

Ed

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Re: Saw Till Project Plans *LINK*

Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>The attached link has plans for a saw till which can be built using basic hand joinery. What I like about this design is that it can accomodate both panel saws and backsaws. You can also add drawers or a shelf for your files, saw set(s), or any jigs that you use. Hope this will give you some ideas for your own design.


Sawtill Project Plans

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You mean sorta like this?

Dave Anderson Chester,NH

>Here's a baby version I did of the sawtill project about 2 years ago. I downsized it by shortening the length a foot. Big Mistake, since the picture was taken it's now almost full. Does this mean I can't acquire any more saws?


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Re: You mean sorta like this?

Alan Hamilton

>Dave,

That's disgusting!

Why aren't your saws where they belong, over across the shop on another few shelves or benches, where they're covered with rags, plans, old newspapers and other tools, somewhere you can't possibly see them!

Jeez. What happened to the "just look around, they'll be laying around somewhere" system of shop organization?

Alan

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Dave,Dave, Dave...

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>I don't know if I should crack on you for being a show off ....or the drive by gloat about the till being full! Either way, I'm jealous and glad to know you. If you weren't such a nice guy you'd suck;-)JR

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Aaah! Not Much Better than Shop Porn

Bob Hutchins in Central TX

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Not to mention the missing wine glass...

Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

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Nice looking till.

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>Do you have any trouble with the paint and the saw handles?

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No problem at all

Dave Anderson Chester,NH

>I used milk paint and then oiled it with BLO. The stuff is very durable and I've had no problems in 2 years.

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