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snecked irons in mitre planes

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snecked irons in mitre planes

John Fitzpatrick

>Can any of you infill buffs out there tell me when planemakers started fitting their mitre planes with snecked irons? All of the photos I've seen of 'early' box-style mitres (by Sym, Gabriel, Towell, etc.) have non-snecked irons, while most of the later mitres (Spiers, etc.) had snecked irons. When did this happen? [Who first promoted them?] And where any of those non-snecked irons gauged (parallel), or were they mostly all still tapered irons pre-1830/40?

Thanks for any info.

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joel

>THere are two types of snecked irons. THe first is just a hook on he side of the iron and is seen on shoulder and rebate planes. THe earliest one I know of is a Rebate Plane by Towell C. 1830.

The second type of sneck, the raised sneck is seen on mitre planes and the earliest one I have seen is on an C. 1850's improved mitre plane. None of the earlier metal planes I have has a sneck or any sort.

All wedged planes should be fitted with a tapered iron. As the lever cap was only invented in the 1840's all planes earlier are wedged and would have a tapered iron.

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Snecked?

Jack from Maine

>This is a new word to me. What exactly is a snecked iron? Thanks---Crackerjack

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Dennis

>Well from the blood and gore links take a look at what Patrick says. And then you will know why the old plough planes had the notch.

Dennis

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John Fitzpatrick

>Thanks for the info, Joel. Care to elaborate on why wedged planes should always be fitted with a tapered iron?

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joel

>Tapered irons are easier to adjust in a wedged plane and hold better. tapping losens the bond between the wooden and iron wedge and when using the plane the wedged iron pushes against the wedge holding it better. With a parrellell iron the iron is held in only by the friction against the wedge. THe big drawback of tapered is the iron and wedge have to fit right and are matched.

However that all being said I was brain dead when typing my original response. ALL post 1860 wedged infill planes that I can think of actually use a parellell iron. THese would be only the smaller shoulder and thumb and chariot planes etc. All bevel up. I would guess that by this time parellell irons are a lot easier to get than tapered irons and in those planes, which aren't used as much and have narrower blades, the extra holding of a tapered iron isn't really essentil.

My early Toweell rebate plane uses a tapered iron.

So - if you have a wedged mitre plane fit a tapered iron. For anything else a parrellell iron would be fine.

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Re: snecked irons in mitre planes

John Fitzpatrick

>OK, that all makes sense. Thanks. Just curious- is the tapered iron in your Towell rebate marked with a makers stamp? [I'm wondering who typically supplied Towell's irons.]

How about the post-1860 rocking bridge wedged infill smoothers (a la Slater or Marples)- were they supplied with tapered irons?

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joel

>it's an I & M sorby iron which, looking at it may or may not be original. it looks the right age but it's really impossible to tell. Also on closer examination the taper is very slight.

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