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another replacement blade question

M. MacDonald

>I just finished re-reading the post about replacement blades below and I have another question.

While investigating the choices I noticed that LN states that there aftermarked blades for Bailey style planes are made .095" because any thicker than that and the depth adjustment yoke will not reach into the chipbreaker slot. But in the posts below several examples were made where they used much thicker irons.

So...my questions;

1 Do these people no longer have depth adjustment, or did they have to modify something to keep it?

2 Is there a way to measure the adjustment yoke to see what the maximum blade thickness your blane would except?

THYA Mike

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Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>My planes will take a blade up to 1/8" thick. I know people who have even thicker blades in there planes.

I think manufactureres have come to the conlusion that blades which are 0.095" are "safe" in all planes of all vintages.

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

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what to check

Dennis

>Highland hardware had write up on using Clifton's 1/8" iron and chipbreaker.

1 Lever cap screw must be at least 7/8" long under the head.

2. Depth adjustment yoke must stand at least 9/64" above to surface of the frog to engage the iron. The forward edge of the slot in your plane's native chipbreaker is not less than 3 11/16" from the front of chip breaker.

3. The width of the planes throat must be .200"

So few measurements and you will know what iron will work without modifying.

Dennis

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Barry Va Beach

>If the blade is too thick to catch the adjuster, you can sometimes modify the cap iron so that it works. You can epoxy or solder ( I used plumbing solder) two blocks on the chipbreaker at either end of the slot so that the adjuster engages the blocks. The blocks are narrower then the slot in the blade so they sit below the blade. If you need pictures let me know but it is a fairly simple fix that should work as long as the screw for the cap iron is long enough.

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>IIRC Rolf made up a brass insert to extend the slot and allow virtually any thickness blade that will fit the throat and screw limitations. An archives search may be in order as I don't remember if the post was here or badger pond. It was a neat fix and I'm surprised that a tool manufacturer that markets blades and chipbreakers has not added it to their catalogue.JR

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Robin Frierson

>If your yoke is too short Tom Lie nielson will sell you an LN brass yoke for 5$ that will make it long enough. But Mine is long enough on types 9 and 11 for .115 and I know of others who have used .125 and the yoke reached. I have also used Cliftons which are .117.

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joel

>I have been running a Holtey blade in my 604 for over two years. I had to very carefully back out the frog, but the adjuster worked fine. I have heard of regular Stanleys where the Holtey won't fit (about the same thickness as the Clifton blades - thicker than hock), in which case the mouth of the plane has to be filed.

Once in awhile you get a plane with a short depth adjuster which just won't give you enough blade travel - but this seems to be rare.

On Clifton cap irons the leading edge of the cap iron is made long so that if need be you can grind it a little shorter. In general it's rare that that needs to be done.

What we recommend is that if you buy any of the aftermarket blades by any maker for any plane. First fit it to the plane and make sure everythings works before sharpening. If it doesn't fit either modify the plane, or the cap iron to make it fit or return the blade or cap iron. Any reputable dealer will be happy to take the parts back and since most of the time it will fit and the thicker blade is worth the effort for the performance it's worth the time to see if it works.

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Just about anything is possible

Dennis

>With a little work just about anything is possible with planes, i have a WW2 4 1/2 that has old laminated tapered Ohio iron(.160" thick) and chip breaker. Making that combo work was lot of fine adjusting and some very careful mouth work.

Was it worth it,well it takes some nice thin shavings and it sure is poor man's infill.

Nothing wrong with updating older planes with newer blades, its just all about what your happy using.

Me,give me old sargentVBM,and i just keep on working, no big deal to sharpen and works fine for me.

Dennis

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