Est. 1998 — 27 years of woodworking knowledge
Re: Dentist's tools
David Barnett - Venice, FL
>Yeah, I use a lot of dentist's tools, but far more for goldsmithing than for woodworking. Until very recently, the carving and modeling waxes for cire perdue, the investment and vacuums, modeling tools, burnout kilns and the centrifugal casting equipment all came from manufacturers for dental labs.
Is motorcycle riding a traditional craft?
Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA
>It's been years since I rode, but I can't imagine riding without bungee cords to hold stuff on (my luggage even stayed in place the time I dumped my bike in soft gravel).
I guess the answer to my rhetorical question is that it's a traditional craft only if the motorcycle in question is British and produced before 1975.
Bill, trying to say all this with a straight face (and waiting for Alf or Bugbear or someone to climb all over me for dissing classic British motorcycles)
You've done it now, no doubt.
David Barnett - Venice, FL
>Think about it, Bill, just to be fair...
They must've been the finest. Would T. E. Lawrence have been killed on anything else?
All classic British motorcycles are self dissing
Bob Hackett
>Lucas saw to that.They don`t call him the prince of darkness for nothing.
Mainely,Bob-Who thinks the man who put that #!*<> diode on a machine that vibrates as much as a vertical twin ought to be shot,for stupidity if nothing else.
BTW-I may not have been born with a silver spoon in my mouth,but I grew up with a Gold Star between my legs.
To be fair...
Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA
>the motorcyles could be American, too. The hard part is figuring out the year.
The last year Harley built the side-valve 45 engine?
The last year they sold a bike on which the clutch and shift linkage were adapted from the foot-clutch/tank-shift design?
The year before they rubber-mounted the handlebars, so your hands didn't fall asleep at stoplights?
Hmm...
Actually,
Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA
>if I found a Brough Superior, Vincent, Velocette, AJS, Matchless, or Royal Enfield at a garage sale for the mythical Stanley No. 1 for $1 kind of price, I'd buy it just to have it around to look at. They're prettier than almost anything else, as long as you don't put oil in them.
Bill's right again, the painted one
Michael Kieta-Ramstein, Germany
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HD-R+D
Bob Hackett
>Actually,Harley kept making the 45 flatheads as both G and GE models well into the 60`s as police trikes.They also did the same for the foot clutch/handshift,well into the 60`s as a police and utility option.
As for the rubber mounted risers,chopper riders were making thier own long before Harley even thought about them.It was the only way to change the bars on the old springer front ends(the bars and top trees were one piece back then)unless you wanted to cut them off and weld new bars back.I`m sure you wouldn`t be surprised to know that Harley has let alot of thier R+D be done by outlaws thru the years.Once something caught on they just stamped "Screaming Eagle" on it and then put thier lawyers to work copywriting it.I`d make a list(starting with the softail frame originaly by Roadworx) but it`d be REAL long.
Mainely,Bob
And to think I quibbled about inner tubes
David Barnett - Venice, FL
>All in the life cycle of a thread, I suppose, (sigh).
Digression = life
Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA
>I sympathize, David, having watched some of the threads I started wander off into pretty remote (from the original topic) subjects. Still, part of the pleasure of this community at times is the way threads can wander - I learn a great deal about sometimes arcane topics from the knowledgeable members of this gang.
And almost invariably, someone remembers the original topic and returns the thread to its original place.
For instance, as an ex-BMW rider, I know very little about Hardly Driveables, and Bob's post, while hardly WW-related, was quite interesting.
OT rant (is that On or Off Topic? I forget)
David Barnett - Venice, FL
>Please don't misunderstand me, Bill. I appreciate your kind response to my disdain. This is no big deal, believe me. So why am I mountaining a molehill? Phase of the moon? Forget my Prozac? I don't know exactly, but just let me make my moan and I'll be done with it.
"Still, part of the pleasure of this community at times is the way threads can wander."
I agree with this in part, in degree, although I suppose since you offer "digression = life" to rationalize off-topic veering, you probably enjoy such digressions more than I (we both probably enjoy digressions even more so when they migrate to our personal interests, heh). Either way, I know it's inevitable and it's either happening more lately, or I just think it is, and/or I've reached some threshold akin to sensitization as it relates to allegies.
"And almost invariably, someone remembers the original topic and returns the thread to its original place."
I'd say the opposite is far more common; that once someone desequiterizes a thread it's rare for that branch to become healthily reattached for at least two reasons: mutation proceeds rapidly when the new venue offers fresh opportunities to those who have little to offer or low interest in the original subject, and nextly, those who might have responded to the germane line will likely be deflected after sharp desequiterizations. I know I usually am. Yes, there are exceptions, but something is usually lost through diminished participation and interuption of more tightly focused concatenated discussion.
Perhaps OT branches are best replanted as new threads altogether, especially when the apparently very attractive urge to digress comes early in the discussion. That's just my opinion. Having just done this very thing with this very thread, it might seem somewhat hypocrital of me (it isn't).
I know I sound a bit peevish and rigid, but I'm not really feeling that way (not strongly, anyway). I just wanted to express an opposing viewpoint (insert positive ameliorative emoticon here).
Then again, never mind. Thanks for your patience and for listening. How cathartic!
One more - ON topic
Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA
>At some garage sale, I picked up a hoof rasp, a seriously large flat rasp, with rough rasp teeth on one side and coarse double-cut file teeth on the other. 21 inches long with handle. Most of my rasp use seems to be in concave curves, so I use it only occasionally, but when I have a large flat or convex area to work, and a rasp is the right tool, this one moves lots of wood.
I have this suspicion that there are other horsey things that could be useful, but as a confirmed bottom feeder, I won't know until I hit some horse person's estate sale.
Pretty spleeny for a jeweler
Bob Hackett
>What`s this guy doing on our forum to begin with?I`ll bet he`s just here to steal all our tool crossover secrets and bring them back to rec/crafts/goldsmithing.com.
You sound like the local jewelry guy who throws a fit every time I ask him to change the battery in my Timex.I`m only going to ask him about 4 more times and then I`m going to give up trying to wear him down and just carry it down to Wal-Mart where I bought it.
This is kinda on topic,isn`t it?I`m sure it takes at least 1-2 tools to change a watch battery,and we may even have a WWing use for them if we dig hard enough.;^)(obligatory emoticon,to help those left over the edge)
Mainely,Bob-Filling in while BubbaBob is out.
Re: Pretty spleeny for a jeweler
David Barnett - Venice, FL
>"What`s this guy doing on our forum to begin with? I`ll bet he`s just here to steal all our tool crossover secrets and bring them back to rec/crafts/goldsmithing.com."
Zounds! I've been found out! Yes, I confess. It's true. I've used more woodworking to support my metalsmithing and mixed media jones than the converse, and hoped to glean the innermost secrets of this cabal.
"You sound like the local jewelry guy who throws a fit every time I ask him to change the battery in my Timex.I`m only going to ask him about 4 more times and then I`m going to give up trying to wear him down and just carry it down to Wal-Mart where I bought it."
I can honestly say I've never installed a watch battery nor repaired a piece of jewelry in my entire life. Although that crusty bench jeweler sounds familiar and every bit as grumpy as me (as of late), just to clarify, I'm not a bench jeweler (although I have respect for those who excel in that occupation). I solely fabricate, which means I don't even cast unless it is to make ingots for the rolling mill and drawplate, using no manufactured components or findings. I allow my own gold, cut and facet my stones from rough, set them by hand, and so on, so everything is one-off, essentially. This way, I stay compliant with juried craft event rules and in good stead with galleeries that regard anything less as taboo. There are experienced bench jewelers who can fabricate in addition to their other myriad tasks, although setting and cutting is usually outsourced, these days. Another clarification: when not using the term 'bench jeweler', a 'jeweler' is jewelry merchant only, rather than a maker of bijoux et objets de vertue.
"This is kinda on topic,isn`t it? I`m sure it takes at least 1-2 tools to change a watch battery, and we may even have a WWing use for them if we dig hard enough.;^)(obligatory emoticon,to help those left over the edge)"
Okay, okay. Point well taken. Yes, it's OnT. I've been naughty, having transgressed the good graces of you august nabobs with my casuistry, and so promise to have myself properly spanked as soon as Mistress Ilsa can work me into her busy schedule.
Erratum: 'allow' should be 'alloy'
David Barnett - Venice, FL
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Re: One more - ON topic (good one, too) *LINK*
David Barnett - Venice, FL
>Ah... now I've been simultaneously appeased and refuted.
That's serious raspage, Bill. I've seen a few 17" hoof rasps in the Centaur Forge catalog and had always wondered if they could waste wood effectively, so now I know. And now I want one, of course. My purpose would be to contour timber, both rough boards to rougher half logs, avoiding screaming angle grinder wood waster attachments altogether and lessening my need for quieter yet no less dangerous axes (although I currently covet both the Gr�nsfors Bruks carpenter's and Swedish carver's axes).
Waling away with a big rasp might be just the thing for my somewhat reduced range of motion. I'm pretty sure I won't be encountering any hoof rasps in pre-owned state, so I'll spring for a new one. Although Centaur's kinda pricey, I'm looking at these:
Centaur Forge
No nabobs here
Bob Hackett
>Just us bottom feeders.
Glad to see you have a sense of humor though,David.
Not a bad sense of humor for such a curmudgeonly fellow.(maybe I`m thinking of the guy from NJ that nails all his stuff together)
Mainely,Bob
Re: One more - ON topic (good one, too)
Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA
>Wish I had an extra to send you before you spent that kind of money.
They're BIG tools, and I find they take serious grunt, for a rasp.
Re: Surface Gauge *LINK*
paul womack
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