spokeshave

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Frank D.

>Hi Tony,

I have the LV low-angle spokeshave and really like it. With my limited experience, I find low-angle spokeshaves have less of a tendency to lift the fibers of the wood or get snagged (the opposite of hand planes). It is really nice to hold and the reversible mouth plate works very well--as if you had two spokeshaves, one for flat or convex surfaces and one for concave, and it lets you adjust the opening too (all advantages over the newer LV spokeshave). The blade stays sharp a good while but you'll need to make or buy a holder to sharpen it if you don't want to sharpen your fingers at the same time (ouch!!!DAMHIKT). I also have a Stanley and find there is no comparison, but I expect you'll get a flurry of posts saying how nice the new LV spokeshave is...still, if I lost mine I'd buy another one before two of the new ones.

Frank D in Montreal

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Tony Z.

>Thanks Frank! Do you know have any idea of the radius of the sole?

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Frank D.

>Hi Tony,

no I don't. I just took a look at it and don't really know how to measure it with any precision. All I can say for sure is not to expect it to do too tight curves. I did at first, but I soon found out that the only spokeshaves that can get you into the really tight curve of, say, a small cabriole leg (the one at the bottom which curves outward to form the foot) would be a cigar shave.

Hopefully someone will come along that knows, otherwise I suggest you drop an email to LV customer service. Their technicians are very qualified and should be able to help you out, at least give you the minimum radius of the curve that the spokeshave can handle.

Frank D.

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Eric Hedberg

>Tony,

The new Veritas round spokeshave has a 1.75" radius (see link below). I've got all three of the Veritas shaves and find they all do an excellent job. For my concave curves, I use the new round bottom shave. With few exceptions, it always does the job for me. I wouldn't bother with any of the Record spokeshaves. If you refer to the Fine Woodworking web site, you'll find Boggs' video snip on what it takes to make them work well. The Veritas shaves come out of the box sharp and ready to go. If you do a quick search of this board you can catch some of the other threads on peoples opinions of these spokeshaves. Eric


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Tony Z.

>Thanks to both of Eric and Frank. The 1.75" radius should do the trick. Again, as I said when I posted my question, this is a tool I have never used, but when shaping some edges on Sunday with my flat bottom Stanley (ol' 151), I realized why I need one (of course my job yesterday is done, and one must be prepared for the next time!).

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Alan Hamilton

>Tony,

I have both flavors of Record shaves. I got them brand new for only around twenty dollars for the pair, yet I still wasted my money.

There's just too much wrong with them for me to remember and list all their problems--but they are legion.

I tricked them out via the "Fine Woodworking" article. The only thing I didn't do was get good after-market irons--not wanting to throw good money after bad. After considerable effort I had servicable shaves--so long as the going didn't get tough.

So I'm again in the market for shaves. The Lee Valley shaves look very good; but I also need a concave and convex pair (I wasted more money on the Kunz covex and concave shaves). So I hope everyone chimes in.

Alan

Alan look at these *LINK*

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Not as nice as the Bogg's that LV use to sell, but good shaves none the less. The new LV wood handled shaves are very nice also.


Clifton Spokeshaves

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Tony Z.

>Alan you're experience is what I would like to minimize. It took me about 6 hours (including much time on a surface grinder) to get my #90 modern Stanley shoulder plane working, and I'd rather spend my time working wood! I'm really considering the round bottom new wood-handled Veritas 'shave, and will probably order in the next few days. By the way, my #90 plane now cuts like a dream.

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Eric Hedberg

>Alan,

You can't go wrong with any of the Veritas spokeshaves. They are all money well spent and a delight to use. There have been various rumours floating over the last year or so on the web that the Veritas spokeshave line would eventually include a concave shave. That would make sense since Veritas did the original production version for Boggs. Only the teasemeister of hand tool announcements (Go Senators!) can answer that question. If they are, it would, for me, be worth the wait. Eric

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kees

>Isn't a travisher an option in stead of a convex.

I have the concave LV/Boggs but since having the Lowangle I hardly ever use it, because I always use it in combination with a concave scraperblade.

I am forming post and rungs with this combination.

Since a week I have the new LV flat spokeshave and it's a very nice ad.

kees

Yup -

Rob Lee

>...the concave shave will be out soon - user tests are done, and final casting mods in progress...

Just a matter of priorities for the machine shop...there's "something" ahead of it....

Cheers -

Rob

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kees

>I it differs a lot from the Boggstype LV made?

I hope not :-)

kees

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Rob Lee

>...well, the price will be a lot different....:)

Finish, appearance, size - similar to the two already released (perhaps $10 more...)

Cheers -

Rob

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kees

>aah that hurts!

Bought one of the last in a dutch toolshop.....

148 euros incl.19%VAT . I hope it will be a collectors item :-(

kees

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Greg B�tit, Vergennes, VT

>I believe you are right, a travisher is a good solution. I think that technically the only difference between a "travisher" and a convex spoke shave is that the travisher's handles go upwards to allow clearance in working chair bottom contours. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

Part of the problem with the Kuntz convex (side-to-side) soled spoke shave is that there is not enough sole in front of the blade. Leon Robbins worked with Mike Dunbar to produce a travisher design that remedies this. Crown Plane Co. currently makes this design.

Harris tools makes a travisher, and a convex spoke shave, but the soles in front of the blade is short. This is a criticism that is probably valid for most of their spoke shave line (not the front-to-back convex one, though). Mike Dunbar actually suggested to Harris that they make this change to their travisher when they asked him to try one out, but the advice fell on deaf ears. It does take some getting used to, but I like my Harris shaves.

For anyone not familiar with Harris spoke shaves, they are a wooden (Coco Bola)low angle blade design. The blade adjustment is probably the easiest to master. Two brass thumb knobs turn to raise and lower the threaded tangs on the side of the blade. Really slick. If these tools had another 3/8"- 1/2" in front of the blade (again, barring the (front-to-back)curved sole one), they'd be a force to be reconded with.

Greg

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kees

>Bristol Design (UK) is selling cooper's planes made from old/used wooden blockplanes for chairseats. That maybe an option for the rough work.

It's also easy to make by yourself.

And for the convex spokeshave I wait for the LV.

Brian Boggs mailed me LN is in the near future making one; Rob L. is reading with us and wants to be one tool ahead in this competition:-)

kees

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Dennis

>Iam looking forward to the LV travisher, lets hope it fills what we are looking for.

Dennis

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LV travisher pic link

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kees

>I will be black iron with wooden handles.

Not our travisher...

Rob Lee

>Hi-

Sorry for the confusion - but the tool pictured in that post isn't ours (it's not black, and has no brass knobs..:) ...

It was a link posted to answer someone's question of what a travisher looks like!

Cheers -

Rob

So...........What is "yours" then? Eh? ;-)

Eric Hedberg

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Ours isn't. (yet).

Rob Lee

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