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3/26/04, 3:19 PM #1

Ernie Miller
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Ernie Miller Topeka

>I just notices there is a crittiques board but no desigh so I will ask my questions here They have to do with grain orentation in a leg. I am looking for the strongest orentation with the most pleasing look. I think drawing one will be the strongest but will be harder and more work will a spline be enough in this joint? I am thinking either mahogany or cherry for the woods what would you use for the spline in each wood for the best looks?

Drawing 2 is if I use a board with the grain running all in one direction A would be strongest for the legs but might leave the arms in a weak possition and B is the exact oppicite. C would be a compramise of both and I'm not sure how D would work at all. A while back maybe two months or so there was a link to carving scrols does any one know where it is at? There is a ? at the top of the arms How wide should this be? I'm thinking this design is leaning more tward classical so I think it will most likly be for an acustical guitar This is just a drawing for part of the base but you are welcome to offer any other comments or advice.

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3/26/04, 5:24 PM #2

Paul M. in San Diego
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Paul M. in San Diego

>Hi Ernie,

I've seen pieces of crotch mahogany in lumber yards and I've always been intrigued by them. OK that sounded bad. No jokes please!

Seriously, a piece of crotch mahogany would produce the forking grain you want to make a structural carving like you show in the 2nd diagram. It might be pricey, but it's an idea.

I'll let others more versed in joinery handle your question regarding the best way to join multiple pieces.

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3/26/04, 5:41 PM #3

Matthew J D'Avella, Kona HI
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Matthew J D'Avella, Kona HI

>Aloha Ernie!

Am I to assume that both feet are to be in contact with the ground? Or is one carving a foot and the other carving an ankle?

First the two feet idea:

Have you thought about making the foot using the grain perpendicular to the leg. In other words having the leg grain running north to south and the foot grain running east to west? This way you would make the foot and the ankle out of one piece of wood (east to west), and the leg (north to south) would join the foot above the ankle. I'll email you a picture example if I can't figure out how to do a graphics up load.

The other way that I interperated your drawing is that one carving is the foot (in contact with the floor) and the other carving is the ankle (not touching the floor, purely for looks). For this design I would make the leg out of one piece of wood, and attach the ornamental ankle with a short grain glue joint.

Either leg design is going to be challenging to create and beautiful when finished.

Matthew J D'Avella

Kona Hawaii

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3/26/04, 5:53 PM #4

Matthew J D'Avella, Kona HI
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Matthew J D'Avella, Kona HI

>Ernie,

You could also glue up a multi-layer cross-grain lamination to give you the strength for the leg before you carve the details. This has been a common practice for centuries.

You can't see the cross graining when the joinery and the glue-up are done well. I suggest gluing 5 boards per inch of thickness, no less than 7 boards per two inches of thickness.

MJD in K,HI

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3/26/04, 5:58 PM #5

Ernie Miller
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Ernie Miller Topeka

>This is for the gutar stand thing. There will be two fee it front with the shelf for the gutar being the top part and a third foot in back attached in a tryangle with a sliding dovetaile. How about that picture but send it to my house erniem2u@joimail.com

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3/26/04, 6:00 PM #6

Ernie Miller
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Ernie Miller Topeka

>I really don't want to da a lamination thing. Maybe I should go look for some crotch wood. That might be stronger?

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