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To LV or not to LV...

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To LV or not to LV...

John, NY

>So I decided whilst working on building my boat last night that my Stanley spokeshave was not all its supposed to be. Then spent some time sharpening, didn't really make any difference, sharp already I guess. So a replacement...

LV - $65 each $130 the pair

LN - Boggs @ $125 and bronze at $75 ea.

If the LV's had still been $105 the pair there would be no contest but my question to those of you that have tried both is;

Should I buy the Bronze LN's are they worth the extra $10 each? Are the Boggs really worth double the price?

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Dan Donaldson

>See if there is any way you can get your hands on them. I just got the LV pair, but havent had a lot of time to try them. One thing that I did notice in a quick tryout is that there is quite a bit of difference in the way they feel in the hand. I am going to guess based on 2 minutes of trying that the performance will be equivalent or so close not to matter. That leaves it to whichever feels best to you.

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Christopher Fitch @ Memphis

>Assumption: I will assume that you want to use the spokeshaves you buy for all the normal tasks that shaves perform such as finer cuts as well as more rough work.

Given the assumption,

Should I buy the Bronze LN's are they worth the extra $10 each?

The short answer - no.

The longer answer: The Bronze LN shaves are small shaves designed for very fine work. Those shaves are small compared to a regular sized shave such as the Boggs/LV shaves.

As a comparison point, the bronze shaves are only 6 3/4" long while the Boggs shaves are 10" long and the LV shaves are 10 1/2" long. To get an idea of the difference, cut out 1" wide strips of cardboard and cut them in the lengths listed. Try using the 6 3/4" vs the 10 1/2"size. The 6" size is small...so small that it would be difficult to use for any extended period of time. Also, the shave is so small that it's not easy to increase it's cutting capacity to even allow for bigger cuts. So I would not recommend buying the bronze shaves as a replacement for regular sized shaves. They are good for small fine detail work.

Are the Boggs really worth double the price?

In my opinion, no. Now I like my Boggs shaves alot. But you will not see a significant enough difference in performance (I have not seen any difference) to merit buying shaves that are double the cost and have a little less flexibility.

To give my background on all these shaves, I started out with only the LV low angle shave. It's a good tool that's made great by the price. I used it a good deal in making table legs recently that had a number of different curves, both convex and concave curves. The shave did good for rougher cuts and did fine for gentler curves but I had real problems on the tighter curves even after trying a number of adjustments.

I realized that I needed a better tool so I bought the LN Boggs curved shave. I tried it out and I liked it alot and I bought the flat-bottomed shave. I noticed a number of differences in how the boggs shaves perform. They do better in some areas than the LV low angle shave and the low angle does other things better.

Then Lee Valley came out with their shaves and given the deal and my desire to just own more tools, I picked up a set. They compare nicely with the boggs shaves and are flexible given the adjustable mouth. If the timing would have been right, I would only have the 3 LV shaves instead of the boggs shaves because I would have bought the LV shaves first and never considered buying the boggs shaves.

Now Dan's advice is right. You do need to try them out if you can. But I think you would be quite happy with the LV shaves.

:)

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John, NY

>Your assumption is mostly correct. I tend to rough shape the solid wood parts with a draw knife, followed by a spokeshave set pretty coarse. This is then finished using either a block plane or hand plane. But some parts I have previously cut out with a saw and I am now cutting down to the lines with a spokeshave on curved pieces and a hand plane on the flat pieces. Both are set pretty fine at this point.

I also want to be able to use the spokeshaves set fine on the marine ply to radius and chamfer the edges, start skarph joints etc.

So, a spokeshave is going to be expected to take some abuse as well as be expected to make some real nice fine shavings...

I guess the 2 LV spokeshaves for $105 has gone away, now they cost the same for a set as for buying 2, ie $130.

I think after your comments I may buy the curved bottom one and see how it goes before buying the other instead of buying both at once. I may end up with a LN Boggs as the next purchase if the LV is not all its cracked up to be...

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington

>LV stands behind their stuff and you can always return them but that flat LV spokeshave is the best. It can make the surface as smooth as my LN 4 1/2. I use mostly cherry and some Curly woods. You might want to buy a couple of blades one for finishing and one for roughing.

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