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Stanley #7 query
AD
>Hi all,
Just picked up a Stanley #7 which I believe to be a type 11. I am unsure whether the blade and cap iron are original. There are no markings on the blade or cap iron at all. Additionally, there is no "Stanley" on the lever cap.
Can anyone tell me if the type 11 had any blade markings? Anyone with the same plane that could post a picture would really help.
TIA
Andrew
Re: Stanley #7 query
Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)
>Andrew
The lever cap is likely to be original and correct for a Type 11 since it was blank up until the Type 13 was introduced.
I'm not sure about the blade but I thought all had some markings.
Regards from Perth
Derek
Re: Stanley #7 query
Bob Hackett
>My grandfather`s #3 has an unmarked cap,the iron is maked Stanley though.
MB
Re: Stanley #7 query *LINK*
Angelo in Cornwall, NY
>A link to a good type study is below. (Jay Sutherland I think) I think all irons should have a stanley logo of some sort. You can check them out here by date:
http://www.antique-used-tools.com/stantms.htm
Stanley Plane dating
Unreliable Irons
Christopher Schwarz
>Also, keep in mind that if the plane saw significant use that it's unlikley to have the original iron. It could be a replacement iron from another company that didn't mark its irons.
Dating a plane as Type 11 is much more reliable when you go by the number of patent dates cast in the bed (three).
Chris
Re: Unreliable Irons
Roger Bell
>As Chris states, using the iron itself to date a plane is very unreliable, as is using the lever cap. However, using the type studies, you can usually determine if either may not be original to the plane. The type studies themselves are not infallible, but are conclusions (assumptions) based on observation and research made many, many years after the planes were produced. Plane parts, including wood, screws, irons, etc. are being swapped around now more than ever with collector, dealer and user interest being what it is, coupled with the poor condition of some of the planes (aka "good condition for its age". We all do it.
BTW, on Type 11's the words "STANLEY New Britain Conn. USA" is marked in a vee shape on the iron.
Re: Unreliable Irons
AD
>Thanks all,
The patent dates and other features do show it as a type 11 I was just really unsure about the iron. There is certainly a nice feel to the older planes. BTW, I picked up old but hardly used 5 1/2 and 6 off the same seller for $35.00 AUD each and he threw in a 130 as a bonus. My lucky day as we don't have the same proliferation of older planes in Australia as there are in the US.
regards,
Andrew