Ready to Japan, but a few questions (long)

Re: Ready to Japan, but a few questions (long) *LINK*

Garrett in Victoria BC CA

>Great How-To article on WoodCentral's Articles & Reviews Site. Follow the link. (Lots of other good stuff there, too.)

Cheers, Garrett


Japanning

Still short of answers

Steven McKinley from Calgary

>Well, two out of 5 questions were answered for sure by the article and maybe a third. The articles had more information than I remembered. An unasked question was answered about brushes. I was going to use a disposable brush from L.V., but Todd indicated that a good hair brush is required.

1. should it be baked between coats (I don't think so myself)?

- Okay, looks like two coats and let dry

2. What two temperatures should it be baked at?

- Todd suggests 200 & 300. Sean stated that he heard it should never be baked over 400. So lets err on the side of caution and stick with 300 as the high temperature

3. Should the oven be brought up to the correct temperature before putting the plane in, or should the oven heat up with the plane in it?

- not answered

4. How long should it be baked?

- A "cycle" is mentioned, but no real indication of what a cycle is, or what are the indications that a new cycle should begin. Sean does state that he bakes for 1 hr., so if two temperatures are used, perhaps two hours.

5. Should the plane be cooled between baking�s, or should the temperature just be increased from first to second temperature?

- Not answered.

Re: Ready to Japan, but a few questions (long)

Ernie Miller Topeka

>I have done this a couple times so let me take a stab at it. This coats are best so you might need to put on three coats you want a good coverage. Try not to get it on machined parts and if you do SCRAPE it OFF befor baking! much easiet that way let it dry completely bake at 200� for 1 hour let it cool completely I usualy wait untill the next day then bake at 300� for another hour make sure that the japaning dous not bubble in the oven if it does it was to hot and you will need to start all over again. I use a toaster oven so I let it heat up befor placing the items in. That stuff is thisc I thinned mine slightly with mineral spirits to make it flow evenly although it will even out when heated. After you are finished you will need to make a couple chips in the japaning at the front and back and around the frog area where the blade slips in add a couple paint splatters and it will be back to looking vintage. After all no one wants a 100 yr old plane that looks like it just left the factory.

Re: Ready to Japan, but a few questions (long)

Steven from Calgary

>Okay, with Ernie's help, it looks like I have all the answers.

1. should it be baked between coats (I don't think so myself)?

- Okay, looks like two coats and let dry

2. What two temperatures should it be baked at?

- Todd suggests 200 & 300. Sean stated that he heard it should never be baked over 400. So lets err on the side of caution and stick with 300 as the high temperature.

- Ernie has also stated that he bakes at 200 & 300.

3. Should the oven be brought up to the correct temperature before putting the plane in, or should the oven heat up with the plane in it?

- Ernie lets his toaster oven heat up completely before baking. I'm using a full size oven, but I'll also let it heat up.

4. How long should it be baked?

- A "cycle" is mentioned, but no real indication of what a cycle is, or what are the indications that a new cycle should begin. Sean does state that he bakes for 1 hr., so if two temperatures are used, perhaps two hours.

- Looks like it's an hour at each temperature.

5. Should the plane be cooled between baking�s, or should the temperature just be increased from first to second temperature?

- Ernie let's his wait a day and then bakes again.

Sorry Ernie, there will be no chips or paint spatters added for authenticity ;^)

Thanks everyone for their help, it's much appreciated. If this works out I'll right up an article, to be append to the other two japanning articles, that lays out these steps in more of a point form.

Steven.

Re: Ready to Japan, but a few questions (long)

Ernie Miller Topeka

>Sorry I missed one Don't bake between coats. How about this Do somthing insugnificant first so you have it down in your own mind. Word of caution The metal is more fragil when hot. I droped the lever cap on a 110 when it was hot and it went pop nice chunk out of the back. Lesson learned brown jersey gloves are not hot pads.

Re: Ready to Japan, but a few questions (long)

Guy A

>I have used this product with out baking, as recommended by Liberty On The Hudson. It worked great for me. Three coats 24 hours apart First coat not thinned next 2 thinned down.

I was very happy with the results - very hard durable finish. Works great as a "japanese laquar" as well. Thats my two cents

Guy