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C&W H&R's

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C&W H&R's

Jim O'Neal

>I was reading the one of the previous threads regarding molding planes. I was wondering if any one has tried the C&W H&R's? If so, how do they compare to the older, used H&R's that everyone seems to find at flea markets but me? I'd like to find some but my wife has hidden my wallet, check book and credit cards and won't allow me to leave the house without an escort on weekends. Don't buy a C&W raised panel plane and let your wife open the package before you get home. It's hard to use the old "It's just a chunk of wood - how much could that cost?" when she has the invoice in one hand and our daughter's spring tuition notice in the other hand! BUSTED!!!!

Jim

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John K in Hastings, MN

>Busted! Boy, you must have gotten a LOOK that could curdle milk at fifty feet!

Can't say I don't know the look either.

Anyway, I haven't used the C&W's but they command a premium price new or used. There's probably a lot to it, I'd love to try one sometime.

John

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Jim O'Neal

>Yep. Once she saw what I paid for that one, she had a pretty good idea what I'd paid for the other two I have!

Jim

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Jim O'Neal

>Gimme a holler somtime. I've got their try plane, smoother and the raised panel plane. I'm still trying to get a feel for the raised panel plane. Can't say I've made a lot with them, but I'm learning. I'd be glad to let you try any of them.

Jim

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Ross Canant - NE Texas

>The Colonial Williamsburg cabinetmakers were using them last week at the seminar. They had only one complaint, tight throat. They thought the throats were too tight for production work, but were probably ok for fine finish cuts. Since they do everything by hand, they had opened the throats on theirs.

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Jim O'Neal

>Did they have any comments about the other C&W planes they use?

Jim

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Doug Reynolds

>Does anyone know if Clark and Williams are even back in production yet?

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joel

>They most certainly are! or rather on the bench planes there was never a problem, Larry, who makes the molding and side escapement planes,is finally back at work - plugging away hard at the build-up of orders.

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Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>That is good to hear! I guess the medical problems Larry had have subsided. He sounded pretty discouraged last year.

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Ross Canant - NE Texas

>In every other way, they were quite happy with them. I didn't see them using any other C&W profiled planes. They did have a pile of old planes of course.

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William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>CAn anyone explain what appears to me to be a short-sighted, irreversible strategy on the part of these Williamsburg experts? It would seem that the very expensive, finely crafted C&W planes should have been left unmodified for finish work. Surely Williamsburg could find another set of hollows and rounds with wider mouths, and use them for the rough work? Metal plane users do this all the time with jacks and smoothers, for example, keeping two or more of each, tuned differently, for different work.

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Mitchell

>not to speak for any 18th century re-enactors, I'll pipe up and suggest that rough work is a relative term. Unless you are talking about handplaned cornice molding that is only seen 12' away, H&R would not be the last treatment on a piece if furniture. I suspect that the good people at CWF opened up the mouths of their C&W planes to take the wood down rapidly to a stage that they would have felt comfortable finishing up with scrapers. Those guys try to think like tradesmen who made their living cranking out as many billable wares as possible.

C&W, however, need to sell their goods to people in the 21st century and we have a very different frame of reference. we want our tools to justify their expense in a day when powertools and mills can crank out hundreds of feet of profiles without a bead of sweat on anybody's brow. So, naturally we have different uses for them.

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