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Old hand plane and new "Japan", need help

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Old hand plane and new "Japan", need help

Ron, Sacramento, CA

>Hello hand tool forum folks,

I have just a acquired an old Stanley/Bailey #4 plane that needs a bit of help in order to look and work "Like New". However, I have never done this before.

This leads me to the questions regarding "Japan" and re-painting. I have seen several references on eBay about the percentage of "Japanning" on an old plane and assume that is the paint, frequently black in color?

I would like to know:

1) The best way to remove all the paint.

2) What exactly is "Japan", is it a type of paint or?

3) What type of paint should be used to re-paint the plane?

4) Are there any special steps or "Tricks" to repainting it so it will last?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Ron

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Scott Burr in foggy Ben Lomond CA

>To the articles and review section. Lots of good info under the handtool section.


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Todd Hughes

>Japaning is a mixture of Asphaltum,[Tar like substance] and other items not really a paint like is normaly thought of .After appliying it the peice is heated up in an oven so that the Jappaning will smooth out and be cured so as to be more hard and durable.

In my experance seeing well used planes that someone has tried to make look "Like New",[mostly by painting and over cleaning] they sort of turn out like a 70 year old woman trying to look like a teen ager by wearing pig tails and a cheerleader dress.Just doesn't do it and at best looks kind of goofy.If the plane has more then 60% or so of it's original jappaning I would just properly clean it up and leave it at that. I have re jappaned a good many planes but normly tone them back afterward to make them look like a clean 95% plane that has seen light use.Much more believable and better looking then some plane that has been shined up in a failed attempt to make it look "Like New".

If you do decide to refinish the plane I would recomend that you do re japan it instead of just painting it.Is very important to remove all the original jappaning.I do this with little scrappers and a wire wheel but have heard of people using paint strippers with good luck.....Todd

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Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>If you don't want to do the re-japanning yourself, there's a fellow on the web that does plane restoration. I have heard good things about his replacement handles.

Wendell


Plane Wood by Mike_In_Katy

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mike does nice work on totes....

John Truxell-Svenson (jvs)

>...and can do things like put a low knob on a raised ring base, if that is what you want. I asked him to do a set with a low ring and more vertical MF/Cliton-style tote to fit a couple of mid-century Stanleys, and the workmanship/finish was flawless (he may still have the pattern if you are interested). Only seen pictures of his reconditioning (zapping, cleaning, and re-japanning), but they sure look pretty.




/jvs

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Thanks to you all ...

Ron, Sacramento, CA

>sounds like I may just keep my 70 year old lady and appreciate her for what she is, though new wood may be an appropriate update.

Ron

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