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Sandpaper revisited

Christopher Fitch @ Memphis

>The notion of "what did woodworkers use before sandpaper" has come up. If I remember correctly, some people maintain that up to the invention of sandpaper, pieces were scraped, or planed.

Last night I was reading Joyce's Encyclopedia of Furniture Making and at the start of Chap. 7, he mentioned that before the invention of Sandpaper in the 19th century, cabinetmakers used a number of abrasive materials to smooth finishes. He also said that it sometimes seemed amazing that "old-world" furniture makers achieved such smooth finishes by using primitive abrasives or something to that effect. (I don't have the book here at work...perhaps someone else could post the exact passage).

I got curious, and did some brief searching this morning and found a few references to pre-sandpaper abrasives. Joyce had a decent list.

Here are a few comments from other sites on the subject:

Planes and Smoothing Tools

Sandpapers, like some planes, are used for smoothing and finishing a surface. It is usually used to condition a surface for painting or just to provide a pleasing appearance and feel to a finished item.

Before the 19th century, sand was used as a polishing material. It was placed loose on an object and rubbed with wood to give a smooth surface. The next step was to find an adhesive to keep the sand on heavy paper.

One of the first patents for sandpaper was granted to Isaac Fischer, Jr., of Springfield, Vermont, in 1834. His invention was covered by four different patents, all issued on the same date. Unfortunately, the paper used in early sandpaper fell apart when wet. Hence, sandpaper could only be used dry and its dust often caused lead poisoning among workers.


Period polishing and sanding methods and materials.

There are many references to differing methods here...including a reference to one Joyce mentioned, sharkskin...

Jeff Parker wrote:

<< This is sort of an offshoot of an earlier posting. I have

tried sanding, once, by placing sand on the surface of the

wood and rubbing it with a flat object. >>

This would not be terribly effective, as the grits will tend to roll

around, rather than cut. Also, the individual grains of sand are

probably pretty well rounded over, depending on where you got the sand.

I recall references to colonial cabinetmakers using sharkskin and a

particular variety of grass (it has a very high silica content) for

smoothing. No idea how old the technique is, and all my references are

packed away right now.

If you want to make your own glasspaper, I would use a thin layer of

hide glue to adhere a freshly crushed and screened frit (crushed/ground

glass.)

Charles Joiner

Who mostly uses sandpaper for sharpening tools these days.

Another post reads:

At 10:48 PM 08/31/98 -0800, Charles Joiner wrote:

>I recall references to colonial cabinetmakers using sharkskin and a

>particular variety of grass (it has a very high silica content) for

>smoothing. No idea how old the technique is, and all my references are

>packed away right now.

I recall reading a 19th century book that described traditional (Meiji-era

and prior) carpentry techniques and tools in Japan, and sharkskin was

said to be used for sanding.

There is much more on that second link.

Just some facts...

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Todd Hughes

>I have a copy of the stock inventories of Christopher Gabriel who was a late 1700's early 1800 Londen Tool merchant. In 1800 according to his records he had 11 reams & 6 quire of Emery Paper as well as 1 ream of Sand paper in stock.This is exactly what he calls them. Now i don't know what a Quire is but a Ream is 500 sheets of paper so you can see Emery paper must have been a big item for him to sell since he had 5,500 + sheets of it.Appears that a ream was worth a little under a Pound.As early as 1791 he listed " Glass Paper" as being in inventory.I think for him to have that much sand paper on hand in 1800 it had to be avaialble for a good many years prior. He also lists " Fish Skins" and bundles of "Dutch Rush" that were probably for sanding as well.Probably ray or shark skin and Horse Tail rush.These materials were in smaller quanities then the sand paper by the way.

I think you can safely say that the 18th century wood worker at least by the end of the century and if in a urban area had acess to and probably used Sandpaper though maybe not to the extent that is used today......Todd

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Bill Lowrance

>The "grass" you mention probably was dried horsetail or scouring rush, a primative plant that grows in wet areas in many parts of the world. The leaflets carry microscopic sharp silica crystals. Until recently, chopped-up dry bits of it were used even to de-burr and polish brass clock parts and other small fine metal components (by tumbling), as well as to polish wood. American settlers and campers have used it to scour pots.

With wood, you just grab a handfull and scrub away, using a brush or a cloth if you prefer. This can smoothe slight valleys the same as hills of an slightly undulating surface, which can be lovely if that's what you want. Also it can de-nib crevices. It's messy, though, as the material shreds apart quickly. Kremer Pigments in New York and Aichstetten (ads in FWW) carries it.

Surely for most of history, planing, scraping, and burnishing have been the principal surface-smoothing methods.

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Interesting info... !

Christopher Fitch @ Memphis

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Re: horsetail reeds *LINKS*

William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>A while back, we had a discussion, with extensive research by John Aniano, on horsetail or scouring rush, used as an abrasive. Reference: Type & source of abrasive reeds for finishing...

I can't find the link to the post that I seem to remember that John made later, with a follow-up report on finding and using the horsetails, including a specially made "sanding block" to hold the reeds. Hmmm...Maybe, he gave a live presentation at a CJWA meeting.

He doesn't list this item on the "Tools for Bowmakers" page on his web site.

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Quire = 24-25 sheets of paper

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>When I started out in office work, IIRC, carbon paper came in quires.

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Japanese saw recommendation

Bill Tindall, E. TN

>I have a "Gent's saw" which I use for handy cuts on small stuff, for example cutting a dowel, and I also use it in a small home made miter box, again for cutting small stuff, for example small moldings. It's getting dull, and there are things I never liked about it(grabby teeth, coarse cut). I am thinking about replacing it with a Japanese pull stroke saw that would cut faster and easier(I hope).

What type of Japanese saw would be a good replacement for the tasks of a Gent's saw? Something from Japan Woodworker catalog preferred, but not essential. It needs to be tall enough to the spline to use in a small miter box(1 1/2 to 2") and fine enough teeth to make a finish cut. Can I buy just a blade and mount it in my own handle that could be bigger than those spindly ratten affairs?(I have no idea how they mount)

Thanks in advance...

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