Saw Sets

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Sanford Levy

>I could use that information too. There are a lot of them on ebay, but can they be better than the very reasonably priced ones you can get, say, from Lee Valley? Also, the ones on ebay sometimes seem to have parts missing (at least some of the adds say "and this one has the often missing such and such"!) Hm . . . the outside temperature finally got above zero which which means my shop might be above freezing tonight. Maybe I can get back to woodworking!

Check out *LINK*

Dan Donaldson

>Joel's store, The Museum of Woodworking Tools has them.


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Jim in Burlington

>Did you buy a saw vise yet? It makes a world of difference. Just recieved my video on Sat need more saws already. I bought 2 saw sets off of e-bay but I would buy a new one if I did it again.

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Dennis

>Look for a Morriall Apex Special......works for me

Dennis

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William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I use a Stanley 42X. They are readily available on the used tool/flea market, and the price on users is driven up only by users. Lots of users recommend these. There's not much information in Walter on these, in fact he makes no differentiation between the 42, the 42X and other 42? subtypes.

The best web info on them, Nathan Lindsey's Saw Set Museum, has disappeared into the internet bit bucket. Does anyone know if this information has been cached somewhere?

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William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Making a saw vise is "falling-off-a-log" easy, but I can't find any plans on the web right now. Maybe I saw them in an old FWW reprint??? Some thoughts on building one are offered by Pete Taran

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Roy: Vista CA

>I have gone so far as to buy the re-toothing machine and the filer as well as the tooth setter that Tom Law shows in his Video. I am waiting on the electric version of the tooth setter to come from the ups man. I have a 42XX a 42 and a few other sawsets. I am still learning myself. Setting the teeth can be frustrating. They are tempered and they will break off if you over set or bend them the wrong way. I picked up all of my saw sets at the local flea market for a buck or two each. One has a broken plunger. It only works on the big ripsaw teeth. When you get to the smaller teeth they have a habit of popping off the teeth. Of the four styles I have they all are frustrating to use. I know it's because I have not found my sweet spot with them yet. I don't really know if one is better then another, I think it's more of a learning curve to master and a feeling you need to develop. Kind of like the first time you really got a plane to work. You know when it's right by the feel of it. I think the same can be said for setting the teeth on a saw. I just don't know what that feels like yet. I never knew what a sharp saw was before I used one. Now I can settle for no less.

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Paul in NJ

>I like the Stanley 42X. It seems to be the nicest one I commonly see in the used tool market. It has a piston that clamps and securely holds the saw just before the plunger sets the tooth. The regular 42 I have does not have this feature. I took a spare plunger from a plain Stanley 42(it is the same as the 42X) and ground the end so it would set smaller teeth.

Paul Dzioba

Saw Vise *LINK*

Alice Frampton, UK

>It's probably not exactly what you had in mind, but there's a plan for a "saw grip" on my site.

Cheers, Alf


A Saw Grip for Sharpening

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Jim Crammond in Monroe, Mi.

>Roy,

If you are breaking teeth off you probably are trying to set the tooth too far down. I've read somewhere that the set should only be in the top 1/3 or so of the tooth. The adjustment in most saw sets is in the anvil which moves down the tooth for larger teeth and up the tooth for smaller teeth.

Working in dry hardwoods, as most of us do, you really don't need very much set to keep a saw from binding. Another benefit of minimizing the set is that it leaves a much smoother surface on the end grain.

Jim Crammond

Saw Set Museum

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>Here it is.

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Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>I got two on eBay, and they both turned out to be fine. I guess I kind of liked the idea of using an old saw set on old saws. (g)

I got two because I lost the first one. :-(

Of course, it showed up after I bought the second one.

Great idea.....

Michael Stadulis, in Clarksboro, NJ

>Hi ALF,

Did you make one of these? Seems like a really great idea, but the slot seems like it has possibly too "high" an angle for the dowel to stay put.... Maybe not though.

Mike

Oops. *LINK*

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>That second link is dead.

Here is a link to the cached pages in the way back machine.


Saw Set Museum

Never mind.

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>The SAWSET.COM site was too complicated to make an easy link to the wayback machine archives. Darn.

Here is the machine page

Leach saw sets.

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Alice Frampton, UK

>Mike,

I'm ashamed to say I haven't. Workshop space being a bit limited I made a much smaller vice (vise) more like a commercial one. I wonder about it a bit too, but subsequent issues of the magazine didn't have any irate letters from readers, so I presume it works! Hey, if you make one let me know :~)

Cheers, Alf

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Thom Trail, Powder Springs, GA

>Good sets at a reasonable price. Also availble at HH.

Thom

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William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Yeah, it looks like it's gone. The wayback machine didn't save the photos or the links. There used to be a vast amount of information.

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bruce in snowy mn

>It's interesting how these things turn out. It was due to a sidebar discussion on the use of saw sets that caused Paddy Olguin and Tom Bruce to start Oldtools.

Bruce

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Hank Knight

>The sets sold by Highland hardware have a double action plunger. It clamps the blade firmly before it presses the tooth against the anvil. This is a feature found on the best of the old saw sets. The HH sets are inexpensive and do a good job. No affiliation with HH etc. etc.

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Roy Hennagir Vista Ca

>Jim,

You are correct. After going back to reading the instructions it appears as though I have been setting the teeth to low. Perhaps one should read those before attempting what appears to be simple. For some reason I over set on one side when ever I do it so my saws all cut nice curves! Ah the joys of learning a new sport!

Paul,

When you say you ground down the plunger did you make it narrower or shorter in order to fit the smaller teeth?

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Paul in NJ

>I needed to make it narrower when trying to set my dovetail saw. The plunger I had spanned two teeth.

Paul Dzioba

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Andrew Alcazar in NC

>Thanks for the advice everybody. I've decided to get the Highland Hardware set. I'd like to see how a straight out of the box version works. I appreciate all your help as always. I'll have to tell you all how it goes. Thanks again.